I had the same thoughts David did on this car. Some cars are parts cars, be they Imperials or Rolls Royces. I have a 1975 45,000 mile sun roof Imperial coupe for which I paid $425 and towed from just below Memphis to Atlanta. Car had some rust, but had been sitting with a shot out windshield and passenger side window for 6 years. The interior was understandably trash. I am using the parts on other NYB's and Imperials. It was just not worth the investment to restore. The parts are being used to complete cars all over the world. The engine is going into an older C body that is almost perfect to bring it back from the grave. The key to successful, economic Y and C body ownership is to buy them in the best condition you can, get Murray Park's contact information for parts, and go for it. If you can get a parts car, consider yourself lucky, no, blessed. Life will be good. For example. I have just finished fixing all the little stuff that was wrong on a rust free Southern 1973 NYB 4 door hardtop that sat for a number of years in a garage with a concrete floor. I have driven the car about 1,700 miles and it still has less than 28,000 miles on it. I would drive it anywhere there are roads. It is perfect: cold air, great tires and brakes, new shocks, 440 engine starts in a second or two -- cold or hot, upholstery looks like it has never been sat on, and vinyl roof and paint are not quite perfect, but get compliments. Spare has never been on the ground. I bought this car for a daily driver, but my 5' 1", 95 lb. wife cannot see well out of it and almost hit a dog she did not see. Even though she would rarely drive it, end of this car for the Blair family. I have about $3,500 in the car and will sell it for $4,000 before it goes on eBAy next week. This includes dealer parts catalog, shop manuals, California Car Cover custom fitted car cover, and a new pair of extra rotors (not currently needed for the car). Where would you be with the mentioned Newport for $4,000? Probably not in a safe car that looks presentable. My brother has made two comments about my C and Y bodies: 1. "You could pick up any woman you want in those cars, 75 or older." 2. "Your cars are like fat girls. They are fun to ride, but you don't want your friends to see you doing it." Let's hope that attitude prevails so arthritic people on Social Security like me can continue to enjoy our truly great cars. Henry Henry K. Blair, Jr. Roswell, Georgia henryblairjr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Whitney Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:20 AM To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: IML: Another Thread Not to stray too far from the Imperial topic, that car is a peck of trouble. I own two '66 C bodies that qualify as daily drivers, both Chryslers, in addition to the '66 Crown Coupe. One is a souped-up 383 car with new custom interior and classic mag wheels that I paid $1500 for, the other is a 440 car needing only new seat covers and a headliner that I paid $500 for. To be fair, the latter car also had neither alternator nor battery when I bought it ... In the meantime, if you want some help finding a fine C body for a decent price, let me know off list. Chances are I can get it to you in better condition for less money, cost of shipping included, than your local seller's asking price. Let's say you pay under $2000 for a one hundred percent roadworthy and presentable life-long California C body and another $1000 for coast-to-coast shipping. There are no lifelong California cars in that price range where you are unless you actually live in California. If you don't want to repair body, trunk and floor pan cancer, these are the cars you need. We call snow belt cars "donors", not "recipients". There are some cars in that region that have been protected from the elements by their loving owners. Try buying one for less than $3000. "Rust free" notwithstanding, this entry level Chrysler is one-half step removed from a parts car, all the more so with a rod knock. If you think Imperials are priced lower than they should be, don't even ask about C bodies. You can hardly give away a C body wagon. The only exceptions are Sport Furies, 300s and, of course, convertibles, and even among those there are still some bargains to be found. There's a big-block Sport Fury 'vert for sale near me, in decent-looking driveable condition, for $2500 right now. But I don't do exotic C bodies, just the land yachts. So let us once again count our blessings that the collectors have not "discovered" Imperials and priced us out of our hobby. If that ever happens, it will drag the prices for the other big Chryslers up, too. Then I'll be stuck trying to get 350hp out of a normally aspirated 318 V-8 in a K car. So let them have their A, B and E bodies, their F, J and R bodies. I'll stick with C and Y. Happy inexpensive motoring, David ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm