Re: IML: Cranked Windows

[RandalPark@xxxxxxx]

Power windows were standard on all but the Custom series.

Paul W.

In an email dated 11/8/2005 5:25:54 am GMT Daylight time, Crownking <crownking62@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

>I have seen a '61 in Katy, TX without power windows. ?I do not know what trim level car was involved but the windows were definitely the old wind-up style.
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>Kenyon Wills <imperialist1960@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:OK.
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>Tell ya what: I'll retract the word "stripper" and I
>do apologize if it offends, and no, I didn't stop to
>consider that your car has a feminine name when I
>chose that word.
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>What I don't see, Hugh, is a better definition of what
>a custom is in your letter. OK. Fine. 
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>I'm not writing this to push your button, but if
>you're going to disagree with a definition, the least
>you could do is offer a correction/corroboration for
>your position after pointing out something that you
>consider inaccurate, right? I try to, anyway.
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>SO:
>Chrysler, it seems to me, would have had reason to
>have created three model lines, however closely
>related, so as to differentiate different price
>points/choices/trim & accessory levels.
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>If a Custom has the same stuff that a Crown or LeBaron
>did (besides the rear glass), why bother with the
>model names at all? Riddle me that, Batman.
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>If there are three models, that are somehow sold as
>being in order of good-better-best, then based on my
>experience in our free-market system, one of the three
>different models has to be the "base" or "least fully
>optioned" or something akin to a upper car but without
>the options (or "stripped of options" or "stripper",
>an industry term that is relative to other similar
>models, implying lower profit due to lower markup),
>right? That's what I was getting at.
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>Last but not least: 1967 saw MANUAL cranks on the vent
>windows on some "base" model Imperials, and I'm
>talking about the general run of cars here, not just
>the incredibly lovely 1957-59's.
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>I called Lowell, praying that he'd have a 57-59 in his
>yard with a crank in it so that I could send you a
>picture, but he agrees that no cranks were offered
>till 1967.
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>-Kenyon Wills
>instigator of the great window crank debate of '05
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>--- Hugh & Therese wrote:
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>> Kenyon wrote:
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>> Customs were stipper cars that had most extra-cost
>> things deleted. There are cars running around with
>> manual windows and no AC and so forth, which
>> generally
>> are the base models. Most dealers would not order
>> something like this for stock on their lot, so those
>> cars are the mark of someone that wanted the image
>> but
>> was VERY cost conscious - to the point of waiting
>> for
>> a car to be built to their specification to save
>> money
>> in many cases.
>> 
>> With all due respect, I could not disagree more.
>> 
>> My base model has everything a LeBaron has,
>> including front and rear air. 
>> It is hardly a "stripper." The idea of a stripper
>> Imperial is oxymoronic. 
>> The company would have frowned at the concept of its
>> ultimate "desire" 
>> vehicle being built in this way. The original owner
>> of my car hated 
>> leather, as well he might in Texas. I heard this
>> from his niece. He had 
>> issues trying to get a Cadillac without leather plus
>> the Mopar dealership in 
>> the small town, Seguin, supplied him with other
>> vehicles for his several 
>> businesses plus a truck to pull his Tennessee
>> "Walking Horses." To avoid 
>> leather, he purchased the base model. Otherwise it
>> is one of the most 
>> loaded 58s ever made. Cost was not the issue at
>> all.
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>> I have heard about manual windows but not during the
>> 57 / 58 / 59 era. I'd 
>> be very interested to know who might have one or
>> have seen one.
>> 
>> Hugh
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