Re: IML: 1980's Imps - LAST ONE -

[Christopher H <imperial67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

If they had "all" sold? How many is all of them? After all, it's not like
they built the entire model run in 1981 and took three years to sell 'em.

I'm sure, as with most models, they had hoped to produce them (and therefore
sell them) for a minimum of four years, probably more. I'm not sure where
you read that Iacocca said this, but could it just be one of those hearsay
statements that was never actually made, or has been paraphrased enough
times to change meaning? I just don't understand the concept of what "all of
them" would mean.

However, the odds are very good that you are right about the badges, or
close. They could have run out, or it might have been that by April 1983 the
EFI had gotten such a bad rap (undeservedly, IMHO) that they felt no need to
advertise it. 

After GM ruined the diesel engine's reputation in the 1980s, every carmaker
was hesitant to ever put a diesel badge on a car again. In fact, I cannot
think of any modern diesel marketing with such a badge. VW says TDI, MB says
CDI, and Jeep says CRD. Only the trucks, for whom diesel still means big-rig
torque, seem to still use Rudolf's last name. Maybe it was the same for the
Imperial's Electronic Fuel Injection.

Or maybe they figured every Imperial would be retrofitted to a carb within a
few weeks of delivery to a customer anyway, so why affix a badge!

Chris in LA


On 8/29/05 8:02 PM, jsadowski at jsadowski@xxxxxxx wrote:

> Perhaps when they got near the end, they didn't pay much attention to such
> things. I have read a few times That Lee Iacocca stated that if they had all
> sold in 81, there wouldn't have been any 82 or 83's
> John
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> From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>
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> 
>> 
>> Someone is going to have to tell the National Automobile Museum in Reno
>> they
>> do not have the last Studebaker built.   The last one, built on 17 March,
>> 1966, S/N C534654, was a Cruiser V8 sedan.  The car was sold to
>> Studebaker's
>> Parts and Service Department in South Bend.  The second to last car was a
>> 6-cylinder, S/N C134293, but I do not know series or body style.  This
>> information is on file at the Studebaker Museum in South Bend, Indiana.
>> They have the build records for U.S.-built Studebakers from about 1936
>> through 1964 and Canadian Studebakers from 1960 to 1966.
>> 
>> April, 1983, was the last month of production for the 1983 Imperial and
>> 254
>> were built.  A total of 256 were built in March, 153 in February and 269
>> in
>> January.   Strangely, the last months of production were higher than the
>> beginning of the model year, which is usually the busiest to get cars into
>> dealers' showrooms for intro day.   August, 1982, the first month of 1983
>> production, was 171 cars and November was the lowest at 40.
>> 
>> But I still would like to know how the seller or owner came to the
>> conclusion it was the last Imperial built.  The DaimlerChrysler archives
>> in
>> Detroit has no Canadian build records, etc. and the Canadian archives were
>> disbanded sometime around 1983.  No one knows what happened to all the
>> information in the Canadian archives.  As stated, the SPN fits into
>> February
>> production, although the door jamb sticker shows the car as being built in
>> April, 1983.  Would love to have a look at the data tag.
>> 
>> Bill
>> Vancouver, BC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kenyon Wills" <imperialist1960@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 2:10 PM
>> Subject: IML: 1980's Imps - LAST ONE -
>> 
>> 
>>> When Cadillac made their last convertible in the
>>> 1970's, When Imperial "ceased" in 1975, and other
>>> landmark "last one"s were made, collectors often
>>> bought  them with dreams of getting the gem that would
>>> appreciate and be bought by a wealthy patron/collector
>>> later after significant appreciation, or they just
>>> wanted one.  Betcha there's someone out there storing
>>> the last Plymouth ever made, too.
>>> 
>>> I'd say that the current owner is doing pretty darned
>>> well if you consider what cars that don't have
>>> provenance from this period are getting.  Good for
>>> him!
>>> 
>>> The National Automobile Museum in Reno (a portion of
>>> Harrah's collection, and worth visiting!) has the last
>>> Studebaker ever made (a wagon, has a slide-forward
>>> rear roof like the new GM sort-utes). and this sort of
>>> thing has to have been going on longer than that (mid
>>> 1960's).
>>> 
>>> It seems that there were folks around and ordering
>>> cars last minute or whatever.  How you get to be last
>>> in line intentionally I don't know, but would suppose
>>> that Detroit would allow dibs on such things if it
>>> meant something to someone and felt like it was
>>> helping sales or advertising or aura or whatever.
>>> They could probably pre-sell it and maybe charge a
>>> premium for it or something?
>>> 
>>> The car has a plaque.  It's like new, and despite its
>>> brothers fetching less, if you really want a NEW
>>> Imperial and rebadging a 300C isn't your thing, well,
>>> there you go!
>>> 
>>> -Kenyon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kenyon Wills
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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