Re: IML: To custom or not to custom?

["Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry to break the news, but there is no such things as "numbers matching"
for any pre-1968 Mopar product.   Chrysler did not start stamping the VIN on
the engine, transmission or body until sometime during 1968.  So there is no
way to verify that either the engine or the transmission are the same units
that were installed at the factory.   The body has the Shippig Order Number
stamped on it and not thr VIN, as well..  Even the data tag under the hood
did not have the VIN on it until 1969, although it had the SON..

All you can do is to veridy that the engine was asssembled one to three
months before the car was assembled.  That is about as close as you can get.

The build record (1930 through 1970) shows both the serial number and the
shipping order number, so you can verufy both those items.   Sometime around
1959 Chrysler stopped recording the engine number on the build record, so
the engine can verified with the build record pior to 1958-60.

And when it comes to Canadian-built cars, the situation is worse.  There are
no build records extant and prior to 1966 no data tags.   So, no shipping
oder numbers on the body and the engine number did not have a date of
assembly prior to 1966, as well.   Which is of no consequence to Imperial
owners as prior to 1981, Chrysler of Canada built Imperials only during the
1931-36 era.

Bill
Vancouver, BC


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jsadowski" <jsadowski@xxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: IML: To custom or not to custom?


> I own two 60 Imperials. If it were mine, I would find another engine &
> restore as original. I doubt many people would care about numbers matching
> on an Imperial. (IMHO) of course.
> John
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Karl" <karlsmail@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:29 PM
> Subject: IML: To custom or not to custom?
>
>
> >I recently bought a second 1960 Imperial 4 door custom  (yesterday)  I
have
> > one in the middle of a full restore.  It is a numbers matching all
> > original.
> >
> > The second I just got is the same.  Bad news is the engine was full of
> > water
> > over a winter.  Cracks!!!  Now the question.
> >
> > Has anyone ever seen a custom built from a 60 Imperial?
> >
> > If in my position would you purchase a new 413ci and kind of restore it?
> > (I
> > say kind of because it would be a different engine.)
> >
> > I ask because I am debating on making a hot rod that is similar to the
> > original to show side by side.  Paint them both the same and such.
> >
> > Just wanted to hear some thoughts on this.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Karl
> >
> >
>



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