Re: IML: Imperial or Chrysler Imperial?

["Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>]

Cars from 1981 and on are easy to figure out    The second digit on the VIN
is the car make while the 5th digit shows the car line in the early 1980's
and after that the car body..

The 1981-83 Imperials had "A" for the car make and not "C",. which was for
the Chrysker car make.   Thus the 1981-83 Imperials are Imperials, and not
Chrysler Imperials.   The 5th digit was "Y", for the Imperial car line.   .

The 1990-93 Imperials had "C" for the car make, and thus are Chrysler
Imperials.   The 5th digit was "Y",   for the car body, which was shared
with the Chrysler Fifth Avenue.  The 6th digit is for the series, with the
Chrysler Imperial using "6" and the Chrysler Fifth Avenue a "5".

Hoever, the same cannot be said for the pre-1981 VIN.  The first digit on
the 1960-1980 VIN was for the car line but there was no digit for the car
make.  For example, 1979 Chrysler had three car lines, LeBaron (F), Cordoba
(S) and Newport/New Yorker (T).    Those three letters were used as the
first digit in the VIN but there was nothing ekse to denote the car make was
Chrysler.   And thus Chrysler could use "Y" for the 1958-70 Imperial and
1971-73 Imperial by Chrysler.   Just as Dodge used "W" to denote Coronet,
Monaco and Charger from 1965 through 1978.   And "X" was used for Charger,
Magnum and Mirada.   Just have to be careful as to the year of the vehicle.

Bill
Vancouver, BC




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nat Hall" <nathall@xxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: Imperial or Chrysler Imperial? was RE: IML:Now Its Heads &
Gaskets, not Exhaust Manifold What Year?


> >"Hardrick, Brian" <HardrickBG@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >  Please take me to school on that subject regarding the history of this
> >car!  I have heard on several occasions that there is no such thing as a
> >Chrysler Imperial
> >
> >There  are Chrysler Imperials, and there are Imperials.  The short answer
> >is that Chrysler Imperials were produced from 1926 to 1954.   Starting in
> >1955, Imperial was considered a separate division (just  like Dodge,
> >DeSoto, Plymouth, and Chrysler (the car brand, not the  corporation)),
and
> >had its own model lineup each year (i.e. Imperial  Custom, Imperial
Crown,
> >and Imperial LeBaron).
> >
> >  Chrysler's own advertising was often inconsistent during the '55-'75
> >years.  Some ads state "Imperial Division," while others still  call it a
> >Chrysler Imperial.  They seemed to push Imperial as a   brand pretty
> >strongly until 1971, when a small "by Chrysler" badge was  slapped on the
> >trunk beneath the Imperial badge.  This "by  Chrysler" badge appeared on
> >SOME 1971-1973 Imperials, but not all (I  know of original cars from this
> >time period that did not come with this  badge, while both of my '71
> >Imperials did have it from the  factory).  The "by Chrysler" badge was
> >dropped for '74 and  '75.  Go figure.
> >
> >  I would say that all '55 to '75 Imperials are Imperials, NOT Chrysler
> >Imperials.  The VIN designations for these years support that  claim.
> >
> >  Thanks,
> >
> >  Elijah
> >
>
>
> Now what about the 80's and 90's cars?
>
> It's arguable that the 80's cars were Imperials, as there is not a
Chrysler
> badge to be found on these.  While the 90's cars are Chrysler Imperials
> since I believe all of those had a Chrysler badge on the trunk.
>
> -Nat
>
>
> -------------------
> Nat Hall
> 1982 Imperial Coupe
> 1987 Chrysler New Yorker
> http://newyorker.digital-forever.com
> -------------------



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