I've been looking into differnt fuels for years for my cars, mostly out of hobby & interest then anything else. In fact, I pretty much know how to convert much of my 3.3 to run off of anything from typical pump gas, to racing fuels, to alcohol, water (yes, WATER), natural gas, and a few other odd balls. "in a nut shell", an engine is a combustion camber. Explosions move a piston inside a cylinder. To get this, you need air, a fuel, and a way to lose the exhaust gases. That fuel can, on paper, be anything which will combust. Now what makes an engine want a specific fuel is the engine's octane requirements, the design of the engine and fuel/intake systems. Basically, you can't run certain fuels unless the engine is made to do so (and thus the reason why we don't run street cars off of hydrogen gas). Pistons, internal engine parts, are only made to take a specific max amount of heat (and thus the reason why lean means bad). These "new" fuels aren't pure. And aren't clean either. Look at the by-product of pure combustion- water, heat, and CO2. Now look at the current exhaust gases of a typical modern car- heat, water, CO2, CO, and some nitrous compounds! Why is this? When we switched from leaded fuels (which also had lead as a by-product!), we needed a more user-healthy/friendly fuel which would still have the octane amount required. Alcohols consisting of just hydrogen, oxygen, and carbon, are amoung the cleanest, purest fuels. Our current pump gas, on the other hand, is cheaper to produce, can include water (and more often then not does!), and other "add ins" which actual make it a less pure fuel (remeber though, water isn't typically bad for an engine- remeber the concept of water injection?). My best example for explaining all this is with vintage Saabs (this isn't OT- it explains this quite well). The early to mid 60's models used three cylinder two-stroke engines which ran @under 60 HP and leaded gas with added oil. That's because the car's systems (fuel, engine, etc) were designed to use that combination. When Saab switched to the Ford block V4 in 1967-1968 (same basic 62 HP V4 used in the Saab Monte Carlo, Somet, etc) ran off of typical leaded or unleaded gas, and was enough to drive the carb cars at speeds great enough for 11 and 12 sec 1/4 mile times, and these light wieght cars are still used as race cars in European mountains! Now interesting, the carb wasn't a big change when changing to typical pump gas on those saabs. In fact, if my memory is correct, the V4's can be used with some 3-cylinder carbs (I believe our '67 Monte Carlo uses the 58 HP Saab V4 with the Ford block and the '66 carb). But if the carbs are going on the Imperials because of pump gas, then it would definately be worth the try of using a differnt carb (not stock). I know that Holley makes carbs which work with pump gas, alcohol, and racing fuels. As a side note, alcohol injection has been a popular modification for modern engines on both the racing and home performance sectors. Basically a mix of distilled water and denatured alcohol is injected into the air intake (in the form of a mist) of the car. This has several results. It first cools the air (which is good, no?). It also cools the combustion chamber, increases the octane level slightly, and "steam" cleans the engine and exhaust systems. The only possible side effects are: too much= hydrolock, dirt or minerals in liquid (like if tap water is used) leaves mineral deposits. Now in the world of electric fuel injection, that means that denatured alcohols are perfectly safe if used correctly (key term is correctly). Pouring gallons of denatured alcohol into the gas tank isn't the koser way of doing it, and probably would have ill effects (as every form of alcohol/water injection since the days of WW2 military aircraft has used the mixture with the original fuel). Now a carb set up can be used with alcohol/water injection. Just mist it inside of the aircleaner at a slow rate. Either way it is a documented fact that water alcohol mixtures lower the effects, chances, and occurance of engine knock (in fact, that's why racing teams use them presently, and why I'm going to be using it on my blown 3.3 Dynasty). Now alcohol/water injection systems are pretty expensive on the aftermarket kit world (price range is $200-2,000+ US). The turbo Mopar guys have been using this stuff however with perfect success rates. Here's a site on how to build your own alcohol/water injection system: http://www.DawesDevices.com/water.html Now the Buick Grand National guys have been using these setups since the 80's, and aircraft since the 40's. Water and alcohol would do harm, and cause a car to not start, but only if there's too much of it. There is a line/boundry where too much is too much. I.e. why its bad to run on less then 1/4 a tank in the winter- in cold enough temps (like in the winter), water can actually seperate from pump gas! So I guess the main key is moderation (though I'm sure it might not work well on an engine using natural gas or hydrogen gas for fuel, but that's due to the design differnces of the engine). Sorry if I wondered some here, but I believe it was all needed info. Oh- and here's an idea- if the older Imperials have problems starting due to water or cold, etc., may be worth looking into a cold start fuel injection system. Been popular in Europe car companies for a couple decades now... basically sprys fuels into the air intake when starting. Figure if you used a seperate tank and kept a "pure" fuel that is known to work in the extra tank... the possibilties are almost endless. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com