According to an info from "Power Play", the 392 weights 737 lbs (with starter, manifolds, generator etc..). As they said "engine weight" i suppose that the trans. isn't included.. But as i've removed some otrans, i 've checked the weight: Torqueflite (with converter) is around 240 lbs. -- Philippe COURANT (Pau, France)- Webmaster des sites ACCF et C-I-F Imperial 1957 Crown convertible Buick 1996 Roadmaster wagon - American Car Club de France (ACCF) : http://www.accf.com - Chrysler Imperial France (C-I-F) : http://www.ifrance.com/c-i-f - Cadillac " Standard of Excellence " : http://www.ifrance.com/accf-cad - SportsCars : http://www.ifrance.com/accf-sprtcar