That's true, Ken, but mine are drums all around, making "total contact" all the more important. The first Imperial with disc brakes up front was the '67 model. Paul In a message dated 2/10/2004 2:08:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, I440toyou@xxxxxxx writes: > The brakes are not really that old fashioned,with disks up in front and duel >resivior master cylinder,you have cuting edge .ABS does not work,twice I >needed it.Twice it did not work,good OLD FASHON driving and keeping a colm got >me out with no one hert.Its amazing what screeching tires will do! > From: RandalPark@xxxxxxx > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 1:19 AM > Subject: Re: IML: brakes and stop lights ('60 Imperial) > > > While we were doing the brakes on my cars this past summer, my mechanic >friend took the drums and linings home with him and during the week, he did >arc them, just like you explained, John. This also made it easier to put the >drums on the car after the new shoes were installed. With those great big cars >and those old fashion brakes we need all of the efficiency that we can get. > > This also reminds me that while I was reading Larry's story about his '60 >LeBaron Sedan in the Great Down Under, it was mentioned that the brake lights >didn't work, and neither did the brakes. On the '60 the brake light switch is >hydraulic and mounted on the front of the master cylinder. If the brakes don't >work, the stop lights won't either. When doing the brake job, be sure to >replace that switch. It isn't very expensive and it is available. > > Paul > > In a message dated 2/9/2004 10:09:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, >jsadowski@xxxxxxx writes: > > > I remember the days when they used to arc the linings for the purpose of >making full contact immediately with the drum. There were many shops that >didn't do this procedure because in a short time, the linings wore to the >shape of the drum. In the meantime, you had less effective braking. > > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Hugh & Therese > > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 8:27 AM > > Subject: IML: brake part sales & service liability > > > > > > Your problem with the sale of brake parts is at the far end of this >nation's not irrational fear of litigation. I have never heard of an >individual reshoeing his own brakes. The complications involved must surely >need some rather intense technology. > > > > I am writing because the issue I had was even more inconvenient. When I >had shoes fitted to the brakes of my 58 a few years ago, the shop had to make >a best guess as to the required thickness as I could not find the specs. >Well, they guessed wrong and the newly padded shoes would not fit inside the >drum. Well, no one would trim them for me and I was told the pads could not >be removed, which is logical as the glue they used was designed to withstand >an inordinate amount of heat and friction. I was told I would have to buy new >brakes shoes. Trimming the shoes was an environmental issue. The materials >involved are pretty toxic and no one had a permit. To cut a short story long, >I ended up trimming them myself. It was nasty and unpleasant and worst of >all, very unscientific. I wore a breathing mask and goggles and used a fast >spinning wire wheel type machine to wear away the material, and a micrometer >to check the thickness. Keeping the depth regular was my biggest concern. I >ended up doing the best job I could and am still using the shoes today. >Friction from the drum has rendered the surface smooth, so I couldn't tell, >the next time I had the car apart, any difference between the ones I trimmed >down on one side of the car and the pads from the other > > side. > > > > Hugh > >?ÛÿüÂ)z¸.ÉmÊNTëjjËzÛÊ<ÊØ"j®&1¨SxSË.æz·-+T¨SxSËs-?©-æ¢fw*®·¦?{.·.ªw.ë¯*xú½«Tëjjw¶Ö?g¶Ç®ØÙz+«®Ë¢émëzÛÁæjË®)z¸.ÉmÊN.I > @ > ¢§ÿs-?©-æ¢oz˱Êmè †Ûiÿü0Â)©z¸š•ÉnmÊ&N¬™ë,j°jËžÛhÊ‹›ÊØ^"j^®&¥1¨¥ŠxŠËO•æ¬z·©—+h™¨¥Šx%ŠËbš—«‰©\–æÜ¢f§w*.®·¬¦‰ì{¥•·¬…ªÞw…ëÞ¯*'xú⽫^™ë,j¬jwZ¶Öœ†g§¶Çè®Ø^Ù¢ž+-«h®Ë!¢é]mëžÛhÁææjË^®)©z¸š•ÉnmÊ&N… I@x -¢m§ÿâš—«‰©\–æÜ¢oîžË›±Êâmèm