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I use Broadway Title Co., Inc. P. O. Box 130303,
Birmingham, AL 35213 They send me a form, I fill it out, have it
notarized, send it off, charge the approx. $150 to my credit card. I get
back about two weeks later, a Bill of Sale from Alabama which I then can use to
register and title the car in CA. I end up with a CA title. It's
legal because for old cars in AL, they never issued titles, just bills of sale,
so CA recognizes the bill of sale. I do this when I have no title or for
an out of state car with title problems. Works for me. For out of state
cars, have to take the car to DMV to have the car verified, that is, check the
VIN # to see if it matches the paperwork. Just was ready to go and get a
newly purchased out of state car verified and then registered.
Checked the title VIN # I had with the number on the car, found they were
different Big surprise to me. Didn't want to face the hassle
so sent off to AL the application with the VIN# on the car.
I'm sure there are other less expensive ways, but I
have a real problem with getting on the wrong side of DMV clerks(read a few BAD
experiences), so I prefer to think way ahead to NOT have problems when I get
there. Once, they claimed the VIN tag on one car looked as if it had been
messed with and reattached. took three months with numerous trips to the
Highway Patrol. Even with color photos of other letter cars showing the
exact kind of VIN tag attachment, still they wouldn't accept it without the
three month process of hopping through their hoops.
Henry in Richmond, CA
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 5:16
PM
Subject: IML: title troubles? should be
relatively easy
Where there's a will, there's a way. This person probably isn't a
car person and would rather jettison the car and leave the trouble to someone
else. That's the good news, as their text will probably scare away other
non-car people. That car's gorgeous - go get it.
I don't know about other states, but there have been several threads in
the past here about getting a car titled. If they can title home-built
hot-rods and kit cars, they can title a used car with missing title.
In California, the records are kept for something like 3 years and then
tossed. If the VIN does not show on their records or those of other
states, the car "does not exist" on the books. It is then up to the
applicant to get a title. I think it is more convenient to posess a car
with no plates, either, so would not mention them unless "finding" them made
things easier.
The method that I like is that used by mechanics, tow companies, and
salvage yards (guess who you should be asking locally? what do they do
when a car is abandoned or storage or repair bills are
outstanding?).
California allows you to hold a lein sale if you post notice to allow a
property owner to collect back storage fees for an "abandoned" car. The
owner has first right of refusal to pay the fees. If they are
uninterested or can't be found, the car can then be put up for a public
auction. If nobody comes and makes a bid on the lein that you have
placed on the car for storage, you get to keep it, title it, and are then
empowered to resell it. That's how I got a basket case 70's motorcycle
registered when it had no plates and had been obviously dismantled into little
bits for at least 10 years in the basement of the rental property that a buddy
inhabited. The process was almost easier timewise than some of the
routine things they make you do, like the driver's eyeball test and
photo.
Kenyon
Wills
San Lorenzo/SF Bay Area
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