What are the requirements for the test? Do you have to recertify annually? In British Columbia, Canada we require all vehicles running a collector plate to have a one time test when applying for collector status and recertification whenever ownership changes. All older cars running regular plates are required to be certified annually for emission standards applicable to their model year. Most cars over 30 years old have very high specifications, so if properly maintained they will pass. The collector plate status makes driving a vehicle occasionally, (read not a daily driver) less inconvenient from a bureaucracy point of view. In my opinion, any vehicle that is being driven as daily transportation should be able to meet a reasonable requirement for exhaust emissions just as a newer vehicle must meet emission standards for its model year. My 38 Chrysler, 58 Imperial and 75 MGB all meet their respective specifications with room to spare. Ernie Stepney -----Original Message----- From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wm. R. Ulman Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 12:45 PM To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: IML: Repeal of old car emissions exemption by California legislature I know most people don't live in California, but please check out the following link: http://www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=31171 Currently California exempts autos built in 1974 or before (30 years old, or older). The new legislation would only exempt autos that are 45 years old, or older. This type of legislation could have far reaching effects in other states that look to California to set precedents. I am full aware that the vast majority of us keep our cars well tuned, and in better shape than many new car owners, and that there is no way states could possibly hold older cars to meet the emissions requirements of any newer vehicles. Still, how would you feel if your car failed some test, and was ordered off the road, or that you had to spend $$$ to have it professionally tuned, or fixed and obtain a certificate that you had done so before you could legally drive it again? I am by no means an alarmist, but feel we should each take responsibility for our hobby, and our fine motorcars by getting involved in any legislation that would directly affect each one of us. Arizona has current legislation that would exempt autos 25 years and older from emissions requirements, and currently only autos manufactured in 1966 or before are exempt. You can visit the site with this information at: http://www.shadetreemechanic.com/arizona%20old%20car%20emissions.htm Please take the time to look at each of these sites, and follow the links to contact your state representatives, and let them know how you feel...either way. If you don't speak up, and you are aware of laws that could be passed that adversely affect us as classic auto enthusiasts, then we really don't have the room to complain about our woes after the fact. You can always contact the representatives in a state other than your own to let them know how you feel. The U.S. is by no means the only place older vehicles are coming under attack, or scrutiny. Canada, the U.K., as well as even Russia have current legislation that affects the older car hobby. Just type in "old car legislation" in your web browser and have a look at what comes up! Have a nice day!!! Bill Ulman Seattle, WA 1966 Crown Convertible Coupe - Midnight blue w/white leather and wide whites, known as Doris Day