i have used gary many times with no problems.
>From: "Rob Kidd" <rlkidd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>CC: "Rob Kidd" <rlkidd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: IML: It's business as usual at Gary Goers!
>Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 09:08:35 -0400
>
> >From my experience, it is a shame that it is so hard to deal with most of
>these old car guys. You want to have fun in finding that sometimes rare or
>needed part for your classic car, and you pay their price, and your let
>down because it is either broken in some way, or the wrong part altogether!
>And they want to blame you for not giving them enough part numbers(ex. a
>rebuilt fuel pump kit)
>and they want you to send that wrong part back at your expense! But it is
>really disgusting when just about every step of a restoration gets messed
>up because of dealing with arrogant vendors and people who can't do things
>right the first time!!!!!!
>But it is too bad for me because Goers seems to have alot of things I could
>use for my 61& 65 but I do not want the stress and hassle that I hear he
>provides at a price. It seriously makes me want to leave this hobby!
>(maybe) Rob
>----- Original Message -----
> From: Greg and RussellTo: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 9:49 PM
> Subject: IML: It's business as usual at Gary Goers!
>
>
> As most of you know, I had Gary Goers fabricate a new leather interior
>for my '65 Crown convertible. Before I could even get the leather back on
>the seats, they turned several God awful shades of gold (they were supposed
>to be a soft metallic gold). Although he promised to make up a batch of
>dye for me, he never came through with the it to correct the problem so I
>asked this forum for advice. It was suggested I contact Leatherique. They
>did what Goers never could seem to find the time to do and $200+ later, I
>had a kit to prep the leather, the dye to correct the two toned-look and
>the glaze to make the whole thing metallic. Goers promised to reimburse me
>for my expenses with Leatherique but so far, after many emails and no
>replies, I have no reimbursement! He also promised to provide me new pads
>for my brake and accelerator pedals. Guess what? I have no new pads
>either! But the real mud in my face is the fact he refuses to even
>acknowledge my calls or emails. This has been going on since the first of
>the year!
>
> All I can say is I wish I had never heard of the man. It has been
>nothing but problems dealing with him and his rudeness in not replying to
>my calls or emails is unconscionable! For any of you contemplating buying
>anything from him, my advice to you is to try and find it elsewhere. I
>have no kind words for him whatsoever. To date I have spent over $3,300
>with him so my orders haven't been 'little ones' as someone on the list
>informed me was the problem. I was told he responds to larger orders more
>quickly. What about correcting a problem? Does this man have no
>conscience? To treat anyone the way he has treated me is shameful. I
>never wanted anything from him but the dye to correct the problem and he
>couldn't (wouldn't) even provide that. I can only imagine what the labor
>will be to apply the products I received from Leatherique. Those 'bargain
>priced' $2,500 leather seat covers that took 17 months to get with not one
>single phone call or email from him in that entire period are going to end
>up costing over three grand when it is all said and done! But the kicker
>was, I offered to send him a deposit for the seat covers and asked him to
>sign my letter of agreement and return it to me acknowledging my $500
>deposit check. He cashed my check within a few days but I never received
>my letter of agreement signed. I may never have received my new covers had
>I not threatened to involve an attorney (after 17 months). This 'business'
>is a joke!
>
> Greg McDonnell
> Mobile, AL
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