Re: IML: imp: solution for airbag suspension ($43.97)
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Re: IML: imp: solution for airbag suspension ($43.97)



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These cars, as well as many other makes and models, came from the factory with air adjustable shocks, mostly in the rear.  I would assume, and maybe that is the flaw in my logic, that the manufacturer has done testing and certification to show that the shock mounts can handle whatever load they may be presented with under these conditions.  I am NOT saying that air adjustable shocks are a replacement for conventional coil springs, that may very well over stress the shocks and shock mounts due to the increased load.  I've heard the "shock towers are not made to carry the load"' argument a number of times and yet I remain skeptical.  I own three cars with air adjustable shocks in the rear and as far as the shock goes, they are clearly marked that they will handle pressures up to about 200 psi!  It is my assumption that when inflated to a reasonable pressure, to maintain ride height, that there is nothing wrong with using the air adjustable shocks to carry a load.  I once carried about 800 lbs. in the trunk of my 78 Newport and the air ride pumped up and carried the load beautifully.  The car rode even smoother than it normally does.  My 90 Imperial, with a full load of adults and a little extra air in the rear shocks, rides like a cloud, even over the worst bumps etc.
 
Under normal conditions and loading, I believe air adjustable shocks are an excellent way to maintain ride height and preserve ride quality.  Mine are reliable and the perform perfectly under varying load conditions.
 
 
Please quote this message in your reply.  Otherwise I will be unable to reply to your message.  Thanks.
 

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: IML: imp: solution for airbag suspension ($43.97)

wouldnt the helper springs carry some of the weight to prevent that? which is why im installing both so that the load isnt completly on one spot. as far as the gas tank goes you dont install it under the tank you install the helper coils under the frame rails.
 
In a message dated 1/11/2005 10:21:22 PM Central Standard Time, Rob_Mopar@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

Jon,

 

The only problem I see is that the shock mounts werenât designed to carry the load of the vehicle.   If you can get everything to fit, you may experience something the hot rodders of the â70âs did.  The shock mount will shear from the body, possibly driving the shock through the floor.  Itâs been a while since I looked under an extended K platform car, but isnât the gas tank in that general area?

 

You might want to contact ESPO Springs and Things.  http://www.espo.com/  They do have FWD New Yorker rear springs listed.  Maybe they offer the pieces to convert the rear air suspension.  Iâve purchased leaf springs from them, and they were very helpful. 

 

Rob McCall

â67 LeBaron

 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:06 PM
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Subject: IML: imp: solution for airbag suspension ($43.97)

 

hi all i was wandering around autozone today when i noticed after market suspension parts for light trucks that should theoretically work to replace the faulty airbag system with ease and low cost.

first is heavy duty rear shock springs. kit includes all mounting hardware. installs directly around the existing shock absorber and can lift 1250lbs for $19.99 for set of 2. (for obvious reasons these cannot be used with adjustable air shocks)

secondly they have heavy duty helper coil springs which also includes all mounting hardware this uses a u bolt to attach to your axle underneath the frame and can lift 1500lbs for $19.99 for set of 2.

finally once you have the springs installed simply use coil spring boosters to achieve desired ride height set includes 4 pieces for a max. 1in rise on each side for $3.99.

right now it is entirely speculation that this setup will work i will be purchasing and installing these parts (all 3) sometime in the next couple of weeks. if you try this or forsee a problem with this setup please let me know. i do not know the weight of the vehicle but together this should lift 2750lbs it also might work with just one or the other. and there is no need for welding or removing the old airbags. thanx for reading.

Jon Palms

1990 imperial



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