I just looked thru their Website. They are very ambitious...building custom
$350K cars, and working on your restoration project too. I wonder how many
employeees they have?
----- Original Message -----
From: "C. B. Kidder" <60Saratoga@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] 1960 Chrysler unibody
> Bill, I drive a 60 Saratoga every day and it has rusty floors and trunk
and
> who knows what else under the paint. My "frame" looks good and my doors
open
> and close so I'm happy, but I've had the same questions as you do
regarding
> where the limit with these cars is. My advice is for you to contact Aloha
> Automotive Services in Wisconsin (www.alohadreamcars.com). From what I
> gather they can take your unibody down to metal and return you with a car
> worthy of sitting on a new car showroom floor. I wish I had the cash to
send
> them my Saratoga (I may anyway). Even if you can't afford a total resto
now,
> they may have some good alternatives.
>
> So definitely go for it on the wagon--it sounds like an awesome cruiser. I
> wish I had a 60 wagon.
>
> Brion
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill K." <pontiac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 5:15 PM
> Subject: [FWDLK] 1960 Chrysler unibody
>
>
> > Is there anyone out there who's had, has, or is familiar from dealing
> > with/looking over 1960-61 Chryslers specifically, and to some degree
also
> > the other Mopars these years, to have some idea as far as what
constitutes
> > being too badly rusted out to save? By that I mean where the car's
> > structure will be compromised should you try to move it.
> >
> > The only reference I've ever had to how these cars were built is the old
> > JoHan DeSoto model kit, and because of how you build those there is
little
> > detail to the rocker panel area to show me just what there is to a
"frame"
> > through the middle of the car (front and rear sections are obvious
> though).
> > I presume the rockers must be extra-heavy to provide a structure through
> the
> > middle of the vehicle, and if they're rusted badly it could lead to the
> car
> > folding in half.
> >
> > So I thought maybe someone out there's dealt with these issues before,
> even
> > if they were watching on as someone crushed out, to have an idea what I
> > should look for in a car that's sat for 30 years rusting to determine if
> it
> > can be moved in one piece, or will need to be cut in half to remove it
> > without causing major damage. I found a '60 New Yorker wagon that
> > externally looks pretty solid; underhood looks okay; interior is not bad
> but
> > the floorpans have holes along the edges. That doesn't bother me so
much,
> > if I know what to look for when I jack it up I am entertaining ideas of
> > stashing it someplace for a project provided it can be patched up.
Here
> in
> > New York the two wagons (this, and a beat Newport) I found may be the
only
> > two at least anywhere within a couple hours drive. But the third '60, a
> > 2-door hardtop, is so rusty that when I pulled up on the trunk lid, I
got
> > most of the lower panel coming up with it, and when I closed said lid
one
> > hinge tore out of it. The second wagon's had no glass for a long time,
> it's
> > rough.
> >
> > I am totally new to these cars from any more than a standpoint of being
> able
> > to tell them apart and have some idea of the motor combinations for
these
> > years. Because this car has no motor, I thought it easiest to just
throw
> a
> > later motor and trans at it. With the Pontiacs I am familiar with, this
> > model year motor mounts will bolt to most later PMD V8 blocks, for
> example.
> > So I am also wondering what block family might be able to be put into a
> '60
> > with a minimal hassle? It's not hard to find pickups in particular
that
> > are rusted bad but run decent yet, and some of the '70's full size cars
as
> > well.
> >
> >
> > I also want to look over a '61 Plymouth post coupe which does not look
bad
> > from the side, but also sits on the ground and I have not tried to look
in
> > or under it. Most of the other cars in this location (Dodge
56-59-60-61,
> > Plymouth 59-60-61, Desoto 59, Chrysler 58-60) are sedans and probably
not
> > worth the bother except to haul out as parts cars. One car, the '64
> Pontiac
> > near said Plymouth, the trunk is open, I look in, the floorpan's gone,
the
> > frame rails are gone, the gas tank is gone - all you see is the dirt on
> the
> > ground. From what I've heard stories, the '57-8-9 Chrysler products
were
> > prone to rust issues, don't know if they learned anything for the
'60-'62
> > cars or not. There is a '58 Chrysler Windsor 2-dr hardtop which isn't
too
> > bad, but the interior floorpans are gone, and the gas tank has a huge
hole
> > in it. (anyone looking for a parts car? it's pretty well complete
outside
> of
> > intake/carb/radiator/generator).
> >
> >
> > Thanks -
> >
> > Bill K.
> >
> > deep in the Rust Belt of NYS -
> >
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