To add to this thread:
Here in Arkansas, over 25 years old and it qualifies for an Antique
Car tag. Cost $10.00, one time. Can't be transfered to another car, but
you never have to renew it again. Has to be insured, and you must have
another car/truck with a current regular tag. We do pay annual property
tax on homes, land and vehicles, called "assessment". When they get to
25 years old the tax is about $5. You can also get a permanent Trailer
Tag for $35.00 and it never has to be renewed. For the most part, small
trailers such as Golf Cart trailers, never seem to get tagged at all.
Doesn't seem to matter.
As to "unsightly", if that applied here, the Dentist's would love it.
Living Rural, means there's no Permits, Inspections, or Zoning Laws.
Park as many as you want, build any building you want, open a business
if you want, if it doesn't involve food, (Health Insp.) help yourself.
The neighbors won't complain, 'cause then YOU could complain about
their place, and they're not having that crap!
With wonderful people, beautiful scenery, very reasonably priced
acreage, homes, or any combination of them, there's not much reason to
live anywhere else, that is, anywhere out of URBAN Areas.
On Aug 25, 2006, at 3:52 AM, David Homstad wrote:
Ted,
In my opinion, there is a legal challenge here waiting for the right
lawyer. A secret value tax on property that bears no resemblance to
its actual value sounds illegal to me. You might plant the idea in
some lawyer’s head that if these millions were collected illegally, he
might get to keep a third of the refunds as his fee.
If the old car fraternity is tired of being a "cash cow", it is time
to organize a revolt. Somebody in NC should collect all the car clubs
in the state together into a club for car clubs. The goal of the “NC
Car Club Association” would be to organize non-conflicting dates for
shows and to contribute to a fund to provide a part time lobbyist in
the legislature. If you can collect enough bodies with one voice, they
will be heard. If no legislators want to listen, let them know your
group will be actively campaigning AGAINST them. They are taking money
out of your pocket, so why not take money out of theirs?
In Minnesota, we do have a car club association for organizing events.
There are about 100 clubs in the association. The MN Street Rod
Association (MSRA) (one club) has 10,000 members and their own
lobbyist. Annual license fees for new cars are about $300, but this
drops yearly to a bottom of $50. Through the efforts of the MSRA, any
car over 20 years old can be registered as a classic for $25, with no
annual fees of any kind forever. They got other items allowed, such as
registering license plates from the year the car was manufactured, and
a flat $90 sales tax on sold collector vehicles (even if it is worth 1
million). They also got emissions testing eliminated for all cars by
providing data of its ineffectiveness!
Dave Homstad
56 Dodge D500
-----Original Message-----
From: Cebuisle2@xxxxxxx [mailto:Cebuisle2@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:06 AM
To: L-forwardlook@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: old car taxes?
I appreciate Roger's problems with California's taxes. Lived there
myself years ago'
Here in North Carolina they have a different swindle going. The car is
valued according to a "value book " that no one ever sees. It
apparently is kept in Raleigh. No other value books are allowed. This
book rates cars as "restored" so you pay a tax based on their
assessment of a number one vehicle. It doesn't matter that your car is
a parts vehicle that will never run, or like mine, is just a Saturday
night driver to the local Sonic complete with rust spots.
In addition to the yearly tax there is of course the annual license
fee, same as all other cars.
You don't have to license a parts car, but still must pay the annual
tax. This results in the guy with a rusted out old car out back
junking the car rather than paying an annual tax on it.
The wrecking yard owners love this set up, as they can then sell parts
from it after the county orders it confiscated for non payment of the
tax, or other "unsightly" issues.
Roger mentions that politicians rate lower than used car salesmen.
Remember, the vast majority of politicians are lawyers, and on surveys
they rate under used car salesmen also-
The old car fraternity is regarded as a "cash cow" by the politicians,
and worse by your next door neighbor. Only by uniting as a political
action group can we secure protection from the buzzards. But by
nature-old car enthusiasts are reluctant joiners-
Been there--- Ted
55 Imperial sedan
56 Dodge Royal sedan
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