Re: [FWDLK] '57 Plymouth Waking from Time Capsule - The Car Connection
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Re: [FWDLK] '57 Plymouth Waking from Time Capsule - The Car Connection



Title: Re: [FWDLK] '57 Plymouth Waking from Time Capsule - The Car Connection
There was a second identical car that was just given away during the 1957 Tulsarama event. The winner bragged about how he quickly traded it in on a new Ford.
 
 
As Dave mentioned earlier, this was intended as a public relations event. In 1957, I would say Tulsa's greatest concern was competing with Oklahoma City. When a car is given just away it is only famous during that one event. The buried car has created press and interest for their city for the past 50 years and for probably many more to come. There are people from around the world that have not only heard of Tulsa because of this car, they have actually came to visit. I would say this was a hugely successful PR event regardless of the final condition of the car.
 
In my own opinion, it is a shame when any antique car is lost or destroyed, but this event could easily be a PR event for us car collectors as well. Even though it was disappointing to see the buried Plymouth in such a devastated state, it does make our cars more recognizable to the general public now. Any press of this magnitude should bring a refreshed interest towards our hobby and that is something we should all be thankful for.
 
I did not go to Tulsa for the event but I did watch it live online. For the first time ever, I actually had everyone of my friends gathered around TV's in excitement and anticipation to see "an old car". Unfortunately I do not own a 1957/8 Plymouth but maybe an event like this will help inform people that my Imperials are not Lincolns and maybe... just maybe, it will help people understand why I spend all of my time, money and effort on 49 year old cars instead of just buying a brand new one.  
 
Don Roberts
1958 Imperial x4
1967 New Yorker
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mopar Mel
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] '57 Plymouth Waking from Time Capsule - The Car Connection

Just my two cents,,,  I wished they would have never put the car in a capsual, I wished they would have just given it away in 57 to someone,,, it?s a crying shame to see this car in this condition?  such a thing of beauty when it was new?there is no reason it couldn?t have been brought out just as it was put in?   it can never be brought back to its original new condition? not that it cant be restored but its just too bad ?. I cant believe that the people of Tulsa who done this  wouldn?t  have studied things a little bit better like water table and leak proof, at lease with drain tile so that NO water would have stayed in.  The concept is fantastic but the planning was done by someone who didn?t think very well..  I personally think my 10 yr. old granddaughter would have thought things thru better then they did. Its just such a crying shame?  Id rather do a fire damage car than a water damage car? just everything is shot?  there is just NO reason why this car couldn?t have been brought out, drained out the fluids, and started up on the spot, and driven away.  It makes me cry when I look at these photos,,, I was feeling very bad that I didn?t go to Tulsa to watch this fantastic advent. But Im glad I didn?t waste the gas now.  .I would have been so angry to see this in person. Its great that the people who went to support the mopar side of the world but,, Im not disappointed that I didn?t go personally.  I think I would have cried??.

 

Just my 2 cents worth

 

mel

 

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Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [FWDLK] '57
Plymouth Waking from Time Capsule - The Car Connection

 

I would echo the "no restoration" sentiment, and it is by far the prevailing opinion of all we talked to.

Tulsa does not have any plans to do any restoration or cleaning of the car at this time.

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:11:18
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Subject: Re: [FWDLK] '57 Plymouth Waking from Time Capsule - The Car
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In a message dated 6/17/2007 6:44:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wbh@xxxxxxxxx writes: "Looks to me like Tulsa and surrounds were flooded on a regular basis

up until the 1990s.

http://www.cityoftulsa.org/CityServices/FloodControl/History.asp

 

It also looks like the courthouse is only a half mile or less from The Arkansas River."
 
 
With all due respect to the citizens of the area, it seems to me that they MUST have known AT LEAST of the PROBABILITY of flooding, and I would guess that the public officials at the time cared only about the immediate short-term benefits of publicity.  It's the old "100 years from now, nobody will know the difference" syndrome.

 
Unfortunately for them, our print and film media caught up with them.  Likely they're all gone by now, but hope that if any are still around, someone thinks to ask "What were you thinking? !!!"

 
While I'm up on my soapbox:  I keep reading of people remarking that "It could be restored."  No, no, a thousand times no!  It should be preserved as it is (After a wash job) in a dry location (The Chrysler Museum?) as a memento of this event.  It is unique.  To restore it would make it into just another restored car.  I already have one of those in my garage.

 
I'll step down, now.
 
Joe Savard
Lake Orion, Michigan



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