Re: [FWDLK] Deck Erection.....in ALL positions

[eastern sierra Adj Services <esierraadj@xxxxxxxxx>]

Roger: NOW [emphasis added ] you tell me!

That suggestion, about lubing the "roller sleeve bar end" is not in the
57 FSM (probably because REPLACING the T/bars was not contemplated,
during  the 1957 MY.

That said, I wonder about how/WHY the re- "lubing of the roller sleeve
bar end is required".
That area/piece  may be the rotating cups, on the
hinge-upright/supports.

At any rate (TOO- much) lubrication is not a problem; my limp deck could
use some MORE 
restriction/resistance; not less friction!

Could you PM me, or the List, here, a page-view of that lube-job????

Neil Vedder  


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• From: Jan & Roger van Hoy <vanhilla@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
• Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 09:24:03 -0700

From the '58 DeSoto FSM, after a year of "improvements:"

"As the deck lid is raised, the action of the rollers against the hinge arm causes the torsion bars to twist, exerting torsional spring resistance that BALANCES the lid." [emphasis added]

NEIL, PAY ATTENTION HERE:

Torsion bar roller ends are lubricated at the factory and should not require additional lubrication. IF A NEW BAR IS INSTALLED, HOWEVER, COAT ROLLER SLEEVE BAR END WITH LUBRIPLATE BEFORE INSTALLATION." [emphasis added]

The torsion bars are removed with tool C-3449. But "correcting deck lid contour" is done using a "RUBBER MALLET."

--Roger van Hoy, Washougal, WA, '55 DeSoto, '58 DeSoto, '56 Plymouth, '66 Plymouth, '41 Dodge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hoekendijk" <57_Super_D-500@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Deck Erection.....in ALL positions

Both my all-original 1957 Dodges have the deck lid stay open in any
position.
Jim
The Netherlands
'57 Dodge x2


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Verzonden: vrijdag 3 augustus 2007 6:58
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Onderwerp: [FWDLK] Deck Erection.....in ALL positions

Glenn Barratt PM'ed me, to ask me upon what reference I based my
statement  that a PROPERLY working deck lid  (nyah, nyah, nyah) would
hold any partially-opened  position
in which  an operator would  place  it.

From the 57 Dodge Service Manual : " All Dodge [dunno about PLY's
though] cars have a balanced deck lid [ IN THEORY ] , made possible by a
torsion bar hinge mechanism. Lifting the deck lid is accomplished with a
finger tip--the weight of the heavy lid is counter-balanced in all
positions by the spring tension of the two torsion bars.

As the deck lid is raised [NOT whanged- upward ] , the twisting action
of the bars against the hinges causes the bars to twist, exerting a
torsional spring resistance that balances [!!]  the lid.

WHEN LID HAS BEEN ADJUSTED CORRECTLY,  LID SHOULD [ahem] HOLD ANY
POSITION WHEN RELEASED [emphasis-added] .

So THERE, you smug so-and-so's , with your deck lids that just go
UP,and stay up,  whenever you want them to.

They don't actually perform like they're supposed to do!

At least, I got to watch MY deck lid perform correctly, for an hour, til
I closed the lid, on the newly-installed NOS T/bars!

The very next day: experienced the heartbreak Limp Deck Syndrome, all
over again!


Neil Vedder


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