Gil Baumgartner CTCI Authenticity Chairman -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Valve Gapper More than likely the best tool ever for adjusting the valves on the 292/312 engine was the P&G valve gapper. It is a dial indicator type tool designed to adjust the valve lash on several types of engines with solid lifters. This tool allows the gap to be adjusted precisely to the desired amount. A feeler gage does not compensate for wear because it bridges the gap and is almost impossible to get a perfect adjustment. With the P&G gapper and patience the valve lash can be perfectly adjusted. The P&G valve gapper was made in the 50's and 60's and is obsolete, but they keep turning up at swap meets and usually in perfect condition. Gil -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return to Index ----- Original Message ----- From: obiwan10 To: Chrysler 300 list service ; Warren R Anderson Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] P & G Valve Gapper I just did a Google search on-- P&G valve gapper --. Turn up 2 sites, one with a beautiful pair of pictures of the tool and both sites raved of it performance. Sorry cannot send url's to list serv or I would. Any problems finding these references and I will send url's directly to you all. Roger Schaaf 300 B Calif ----- Original Message ----- From: Warren R Anderson To: Chrysler 300 list service ; obiwan10 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:53 AM Subject: [Chrysler300] P & G Valve Gapper >Some 40 years ago a device was manufactured called the P&G(no not made by Proctor and Gamble) Valve Gapper for accurately adjusting rocker clearance on solid lifter camshafts. > >It basically consisted of a dial indicator that mounted to your head(could have been magnetic I am uncertain now) and had adapters for each type of motor whether Chevy, Olds(when equipped with after market solid cam), Ford etc. I had the experience of using a P&G valve gapper in 1958. We used it on a Y-block 312 Ford. There was immediate smoothness and quiet. It does work. A speed shop in Baldwin Park, CA, set up the valves in my C300 in 1962. I bought a Model 300 set a good ten years ago at a swap meet in Phx. Since that time I have made two good buys on e-bay for parts and adaptors but not whole, working tools. The company was in Portland, Oregon but I have been unable to find them as P&G Manufacturing or as any other firm. We have many sources for specialty tools but have not seen such a tool. There is no such tool for OHC engines which is very near all that we work with today and that need periodic valve adjustments (we are not a hot rod shop and deal mostly with electronic/driveability troubles and, yes, we have fixed a number of driveability problems with a simple valve adjustment). The dial indicator measures relative travel of the rocker arm tip to the valve stem. This is a more precise measurement than a flat feeler gauge will provide. The tool is two barrels and adaptors. The outer barrel adaptor sits on the valve spring retainer and the inner barrel pulls up on the rocker tip. The dial indicator indicates relative movement of these two barrels as the engine idles. The slower the engine will idle the easier it is to use this tool. Because the needle on the dial indicator moves quite rapidly, the tool has what we now know as 'freeze frame'. Warren Anderson Sedona,AZ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]