Fwd: Re: [Chrysler300] Cal. Car owners QUestion

[smopar@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 0:16:44 -0500
> From: smopar@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: G & E Riehl <longrams@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Cal. Car owners QUestion
> Cc: Paul Holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> I received two emails, one from Cliff Holt who recently bought a really nice original 300F from Calif that was about a mile from me that I never knew about!  Hadn't been driven in years - lucky "barn find".  In any case, he tells me his F does have PCV.  In addition, I received a similar note from George, below, saying much the same thing about his car.  I also received a note from Sherwood Kahlenberg who indicated California did have a retrofit program many years ago requiring installation of PCV, that might have been triggered by a change of owership.  So it looks like at least in 1960 a 300F might have had PCV, maybe from the factory.  All I can say is my F was ordered new by Roland Funk from Glendale Motor Car Company in Glendale, CA, and the car was ordered with factory air.  I have the original Monrony.  It has a draft tube, and I can find no signs that it ever had PCV.  There is a fitting on one of the rams, but it is for the brake booster/reservoir and has take offs for other vacuum doors in the interior for the a/c system.  But that is all.  So I guess another mystery!
> Steve Albu
> ---- G & E Riehl <longrams@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> > Steve;
> >   The first year was 1960 on A/C cars and all Calif ordered cars. Part of
> > their "Clean Air" package. My F is a Calif bought car and has A/C with PCV.
> > Some cars ordered other than Calif could have the PCV. , but not all.
> > Something of a hit-miss. Maybe the manufacturers saw the writing on the
> > wall. Not all early "eastern" cars for 1961 had PCV, A/C or not. From about
> > early mid year, they did have from then on. They then followed Calif.
> > emissions.
> >    George Riehl
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <smopar@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: Paul Holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Cal. Car owners QUestion
> > 
> > 
> > > Chrysler didn't install any factory PCV systems until the 1961 model year,
> > and those were open systems, not closed.  That installation is a retrofit
> > closed system.  It avoids the crankcase fumes that tend to leave an odor
> > that can be smelled under idling conditions or with the heater on.  I don't
> > think California ever required a PCV retrofit on a 1957 vehicle, at least my
> > 1957 300C doesn't have one and I have had it for what must be close to 20
> > years!  Those unrepentant smog bureaucrats will never get their hands on my
> > collector cars!
> > > Steve Albu
> > >
> > > ---- Paul Holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > any California Car owners have anything like the PCV installation seen
> > in
> > > > the pics for this car car listed on e-bay??
> > > >
> > > > item number 4611616422
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Paul Holmgren
> > > > 2 57 300-C's in Indy
> > > > Hoosier Corps L#6
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