Hi Bob, Actually, the thermal-style gauges which use a voltage limiter were introduced in MoPars in the 1959 model year, but only in the Dodge and Imperial models. By 1960 the entire Chrysler Corporation lineup used the thermal-style gauges. We here at JC Auto Restoration offer a solid-state internal voltage limiter conversion that effectively solves the drifting gauge syndrome by giving the gauges a constant, electronically-controlled output voltage. This allows a more precise calibration of the gauge movements as well. The cost for this voltage limiter conversion is $85, plus an additional $45 per gauge as required to calibrate the thermal movement. All of our electrical restoration work is warranted for one year, which is 365 days longer than from Chrysler when these parts were available new... Hope this helps! Jeff JC Auto Restoration, Inc. 20815 52nd Ave W #2 Lynnwood, WA 98036 ph: 425-672-8324 fx: 425-771-2522 www.jcauto.com jcauto@xxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Merritt" <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Chrysler300 list" <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 64 gauge swing > Correct me if I am wrong, I think 1960 was the first year the voltage > limiter (regulator) was used on the instrument panel gauges. I find no > mention in the 1959 supplement or in the 57 service manual, can't locate > my 58 fsm. > > > I did find this from the 1960 service manual page 50 group 8 "Electrical > and Instruments" > > +++++++++++++ > The constant voltage is provided through the use of a voltage regulator > contained inside the fuel gauge case on Models PS-1 and PS-3 (DeSoto), in > the oil pressure gauge case on Models PC-1,2, and 3 (Chrysler Windsor, > Saratoga, New Yorker), and in the temperature gauge on Model PY-1 > (Imperial). > > The terminals on the gauge that hoses (houses) the constant voltage > regulator internally is marked as follows: > "A" - is the output terminal for the controlled voltage from the > regulator. > "I" - is the 12 volt input voltage terminal to the voltage regulator. > "S" - is the terminal for the connection to the sending unit. > > The gauges (related to the thermal system) that do not contain the > regulator will have only the controlled voltage terminal "T" and the > terminal for the connection to the sending unit "S". (**) > +++++++++++++ > (**) This is mis-leading -- you'd think that only the gauge with the > regulator has a "A" terminal. I checked my spares and all gauges except > the ammeter have an "A" terminal, as also shown on the instrument panel > wiring diagram. > > > I found on the web these helpful links: > http://www.moparfins.com/Repairs/Fuel_Gauge_Repair/Fuel_Gauge_Repair.htm > > and > > http://www.gcartrim.com/Instrument%20Clusters.htm#clock%20and%20tach > (scroll to the bottom of the page). > > I made up this page from a gauge I had handy. > > http://www.chrysler300club.com/rcmstuff/v/v.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Merritt > To: Chrysler300 list > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:36 PM > Subject: [Chrysler300] 64 gauge swing > > > > > > The 64 coupe has the temp and fuel gage "swing moods" blues. I have > checked the temp. unit on the block, cleaned it ad reset the connection. > The fuel unit in tank is new, it worked in Pa for the meet. > > The ground at the unit to line is the clip o connector, and is new, along > with an external ground from tank strap bolt to the fuel line. I have > checked for loose wires on the back side of the gages. > > Has any one found a cure for these syndroms? Thanks all. > D.Dumais 300K-ly > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/