[Chrysler300] KYB shocks

[Bob Merritt <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

In the past I used
PST and-or Summit for KYBs.

The phone for PST is 800-247-2288 or Summit at 1-800-230-3030.

You want KG4507 for fronts, KG5511 rears (pre 65) and 5512 rears 65 up.

It has been a few years since I bought these..............

R






On 7/26/2011 2:54 PM, Robert Tittle wrote:
>
> I checked the KYB Site & could not find the 2 Part Numbers, KG 4507 & 
> KG 5511. I dropped a line to the Tech Support guys & got this response:
>
> The part numbers you mention are in our current inventory.  If you 
> visit any local CARQUEST, Advance, Or O'reilly auto parts store they 
> could special order them for you.  However please be advised, we do 
> not catalog this particular application.  To accurately identify the 
> correct parts for your vehicle we would need dimensions of the units 
> currently in use.
>
> Thanks,
>
> KYB
>
> My answer was, “Got to be better than the Ford Truck Shock I have on 
> her now.” My question is, which is the front Shock? 4507 or 5511?
>
> Thanks
>
> R.T>
>
> *From:*Forward Look Mopar Discussion List 
> [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Gary Pavlovich
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:48 PM
> *To:* L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [FWDLK] [Chrysler300] Shocks - Koni
>
> John,
>
> Though I posted about the KYB shocks as a good alternative for our 
> cars I would be interested in a set of the KONI shocks as well, but I 
> think the specs for the 56 Ply would be different and not help with 
> the order; but I could be wrong.  You are right about the safety 
> characteristics/value of the right shock for the spirited driving and 
> panic maneuver; I am in your camp with that driving style/need.
>
> Gary Pavlovich
>
> 402” Poly Stroker motor...
>
> *From:*John <mailto:spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> *Sent:*Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:01 AM
>
> *To:*L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> *Subject:*Re: [FWDLK] [Chrysler300] Shocks - Koni
>
> Hi Mike -
>
> I included you and your 300Hs in the "4-1/2" count of possible buyers 
> for these Koni shocks.
>
> I think there is not enough interest worldwide - so far it's me, you, 
> another person from the 300 Club Int'l, and possibly Rick from the 
> Forwardlook list (who didn't say how many).  So, I have not asked the 
> Koni rep anything further than the initial availability question below 
> - right now, there is no pricing and no consideration to place these 
> back into production..
>
> The low interest in these shocks may just be the nature of the owner 
> of these cars - most drivers of these cars take them out on slow 
> Sunday drives, and have had them for many years, when there were nice 
> runners available for four weeks' pay.  In 2011, for many folks, 
> paying more than a modest dinner for two out on the town for a set of 
> four shocks is considered excessive - and is reflected by the 
> near-zero interest this is generating here.
>
> Myself, I get out in the cut & thrust of I-95 in South Florida and 
> have to out-maneuver the media-estimated 30% of drivers who have NO 
> car insurance at all. The added control afforded by the $130-$140 KYBs 
> have saved my butt on many occasions - but there's room for 
> improvement. I consider the KYBs good insurance, and for a one-time 
> purchase, an excellent investment. And the car is more pleasant and 
> fun to drive - I can only imagine what the Konis would be like. I 
> would surely never go back to the stock-type shock absorber, ever.
>
> I am copying this discussion over onto the Forwardlook list, and I 
> welcome anyone to bring it to the 1959 Plymouth list, the Christine 
> clubs, or any other related Mopar auto forum.
>
> John
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> John,
> I wonder what price range they are considering.
>
> I paid $800 per car set for my Jaguars (6 shocks) .
> They made such a terrific difference that I would be willing to buy 2 
> sets if necessary. If they're thinking $100 each, I wonder how it 
> would change if we thought in terms of $200 each.
> I would gladly pay $800 for a set of Koni  shocks designed by Koni  
> for my car.
> I also wonder just where all the same shocks (as ours) were used 
> originally, and  hopw many of those folks we could interest.
> Mike Moore
>
> On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:13 PM, John wrote:
>
> > CanMan & All!
> >
> > I sent the email below to see if there is any interest in Koni shocks 
> for our
> > 1957-1964 Mopars.
> >
> > So far, not including ole CanMan, I have heard interest in the Koni 
> shocks
> > totaling four and a half car sets. Only 45.5 sets to go!!
> >
> > The Koni US factory representative said fifty CAR SETS would be the 
> minimum
> > amount required to have the factory in Holland make a production run.
> >
> > Konis are an adjustable, super-premium shock at a super-premium 
> price, used on
> > many expensive high-speed European sports cars because of their 
> superior control
> > characteristics - a car set of four shocks for many cars often runs 
> $600 or
> > more. I know it is nearly impossible to convince someone who is used 
> to paying
> > $15/each for shocks that one could be worth 10x the price. Heck, even 
> the KYBs,
> > which I like very much and have on a couple of my early 60s Mopars 
> and other
> > cars, are beyond the pale for many at $30-$40 each - and they are 
> well-worth the
> > price in improved handling. I find it a little irritating that the 
> KYBs are
> > made in the Far East, though, but they have proven to be a long-lasting,
> > well-made product. At least the Konis are made in Holland.
> >
> > To tell the story in more detail, I've only had Koni shocks on one 
> car, a 1962
> > Morgan Plus/4. When I got the car in 1980, with well over 100,000 
> miles on it, I
> > ordered Konis right away. Much to my surprise, when I cleaned off the 
> surface
> > rust on the old shocks, they too were Konis, with a 1964 date of 
> manufacture on
> > them! The new ones I installed hardly made a difference, and the old 
> ones still
> > had one more "click" of adjustment left on them to stiffen up the 
> rebound
> > action, even being 16 years old at the time. I was impressed, and 
> drove that
> > car 65,000 miles in my ownership, with never a concern about shocks.
> >
> > One thing that just came to mind - There are US manufacturers that 
> are making
> > high-performance shocks for the likes of Camaros, Mustangs, etc., - I 
> wonder if
> > any of them would take a look at a set of KYBs as an example, and 
> come up with a
> > shock for us? Maybe there's a close fit that can be adapted - I'm 
> messing
> > around with a '72 Pinto wagon (who knows why?!), and installed KYBs 
> all around -
> > I had read, and since confirmed, that 1980s Camaro rear shocks fit 
> and work very
> > well on the rear of the Pinto.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > John Spiers
> >
> > ________________________________
>
> >
> > How many do you have signed up, to get a set?
> >
> > How soon is this gonna happen?
> >
> > Thanks,,,,,,,,,,,,,
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > To continue forward with this discussion about shock absorbers at the 
> 300 Club
> > listserver:
> >
> > Koni once made front and rear shocks to fit our cars.
> >
> > I recall having read a thread on the Imperial Club's website. I found 
> it, and
> > here it is, complete with misspellings:
> >
> > Tip from Philippe:
> > Just a little story about shock absorbers, I think that it could help 
> you and
> > the Imperial owners. Last year I bought a 57 wrecked Crown (no 
> glasses, rust
> > everywhere, transmission « out »). This car was neglected since 1966 
> so all the
> > parts on it were never replaced with aftermarket parts ! Except one 
> thing : the
> > shock absorbers! Maybe the original « Oriflow » weren't as strong as 
> Chrysler
> > said! I was very surprised when I removed the shocks : they aren't « 
> made in
> > Brazil or Mexico » as actual sold by K....R or B......M. There are 
> KONI shocks,
> > a very reliable & famous make (more expensive also). But I don't know 
> if Koni
> > make them always. Summit has Koni shocks on his catalog. I give you the
> > reference (as they are the same from 57 to 65) : Front : 80 C 1229 
> Rear : 82
> > 1066 Date of manufacturing : 11/64 If they are always manufactured, 
> buy them and
> > don't buy $80.00 for four : I bought 4 gaz charged absorbers (from 
> kanter) :
> > after one year, one was leaking and one was jamed ! Mexico made ...
> > >>Follow-up from Dietmar:
> > >>>You are right- KONI is the worlds best qualitiy shock absorbers 
> for street and
> > >>>race cars. They will serve You a 100 000 miles without any 
> complain. I use them
> > >>>on my IMP 60 so this havy car dont swim nor incline in the curve, 
> I use KONI an
> > >>>all sports car I have.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>---
> > >>>
> >
> > So I sent an email to Koni North America, inquiring about the above 
> mentioned
> > part numbers. Here is the reply:
> >
> > From: "Mclaughlin, Paul - ITT Motion Technologies"
> >
> > Haven't had those part#'s for years... I think u have to buy 50 cars 
> sets each
> > to get run made in Holland.
> >
> > Paul McLaughlin
> > Koni Shock Absorbers
> > ITT Corporation
> > Racing Technical Sales Rep.
> > 1961A International Way
> > Hebron, Ky. 41048
> > 800-922-2616 option 6
> >
> > ---
> >
> > I checked on prices of Koni shocks. They are much more than the KYBs 
> - for
> > example, on Koni's website, a pair of front shocks for a 1970 Dodge 
> Challenger
> > lists for $320/pair (online price, $240) and the rear pair list for 
> $380 (online
> > price, $285). And they do go for upwards of $500/pair in some cases.
> >
> > To make the minimum order, I think it would be difficult to convince 
> a total of
> > 50 people worldwide, between both 300 clubs, the Imperial Club, both 
> Christine
> > clubs, and all the members of the Forwardlook list, to drop $600 on a 
> set of
> > Koni shocks, when there are discussions of the KYBs being far too 
> expensive at
> > over $100/set . . . and I wouldn't drive another one of these cars 
> without at
> > least KYBs on it. The difference, to you who don't know, is like AM 
> radio
> > versus satellite radio.
> >
> > I personally would buy at least 2 sets of the Konis, after 
> experiencing the
> > profound difference of KYBs, and knowing the Konis are another 
> quantum leap
> > forward - I've only run them 65,000 miles on one car I've owned (a 
> '62 Morgan
> > +4) and was very impressed. One important and interesting feature of 
> the Konis,
> > is that they are adjustable for firmness/softness in their rebound 
> action.
> > http://www.koni-na.com/comp.cfm
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John Spiers
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > There are some H.D. choices out there. Not many cheap one though.
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Bilstein-Heavy-Duty-Shock-Absorber/dp/B001HIAMWU/ref=au_pf_pfg_s?ie=UTF8&Model=300%7C2489&n=15684181&s=automotive&Make=Chrysler%7C39&Year=1970%7C1970&newCar=1&carId=001 <http://www.amazon.com/Bilstein-Heavy-Duty-Shock-Absorber/dp/B001HIAMWU/ref=au_pf_pfg_s?ie=UTF8&Model=300%7C2489&n=15684181&s=automotive&Make=Chrysler%7C39&Year=1970%7C1970&newCar=1&carId=001>
> >
> > Bill Huff
> >
> > At 7/21/201111:58 AM, Michael Moore wrote:
> > >I installed those on my 300H and was grateful to get them.
> > >I wish they were stiffer though.
> > >Its almost as though there are no shocks on the car, but insofar as
> > >I know, that's all thats available.I wish Koni made a set to fit.
> > >Mike Moore
> > >300H
> > >
> > >
> > >On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Tony Bevacqua wrote:
> > >
> > > > KYB shocks. KG4507 and KG 5511 are the correct ones. I just made a
> > > > purchase for my 57 (shocks are correct for 1957 to 1964, I believe).
> > > > $116.32 for the 4 shocks, plus handling, etc.
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On
> > > > Behalf Of Marshall Larson
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:26 AM
> > > > To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Subject: [Chrysler300] Shocks.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions for an appropriate brand and model of shocks for 
> a G. I
> > > > don't need anything exotic, just proper ride and to deal with the 
> radials
> > > > that are on the car. All suggestions appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > MN Marshall
> > > >
>
>
>
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