RE: [Chrysler300] Garage Plans

[Sam Cohen <scohen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm just finishing a 3500 ft2 shop with a 2-post lift, 4-post lift and a pit for working on heavy equipment. Each has a door in front of it so I don't have to move non-running vehicles when I bring in a car to work on. I put in a 4th door for vehicles that don't need a lift or pit. We also built it tall enough to put in a mezzanine level for storage and tucked a bathroom under the stairs. I went with a metal building to get clear span and tall ceilings for the mezzanine. For metal buildings, you buy them by the pound. Adding height and to a lesser extent size costs very little extra. The slab was the biggest expense. Also, going with standard building sizes cuts costs. You can often find buildings that people put a deposit on and then backed out. The factory sells these very cheap. We also built in a compressor room to keep the noise level down. Have fun!

Sam Cohen
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From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Jones
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:01 PM
Cc: Chrysler 300 Broadcast
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Garage Plans



Always exciting to plan.
I agree with Billlll. If you have the room, go bigger. It usually does not cost much more.
If you talk to anyone who built a shop, you will NEVER find one who will say It's too big.
My shop is 30 X 50 and was here when I bought the property. I added a 23' X 60' car open shed on one side. I bought used roof metal at an auction and it was 23' long, just right, paid $50 for the stack and still have some left over.
My shop can be seen on the 300 Clubs website in the tech section. I wrote an article about installing a lift in my shop which has 10' sidewalls. I built the lift into the center truss and used it as a support. Lift cost was $1850.00 delivered, 5 yrs. ago, may be cheaper now, get on the email list and watch for sales.

I love the lift, well built, USA made and here's the contact:

American Automotive Equipment
3 Rye Ridge Plaza
Port Chester, NY 10573
Phone: +1 914-690-9010
Email: sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:sales%40americanautomotiveequipment.com>

Building a shop bigger works along the lines that once they are pouring the slab, bigger is just a little more framing and a few more yards of concrete. Same goes for the trusses and walls. Price wider trusses, see what the cost of adding 10 more feet to the length would be and again, if you have the room, beggar is more gooder.

In your area, cold is the rule I guess, so use at least 2X6 walls, and ONLY use cellulose insulation. 12' side walls, minimum. and keep in mind that a real lift needs 12' 6" for an overhead lift. These keep the cables and hoses above going from one side to the other. Avoid the ones that have these going across the floor from side to side. A royal pain when using a jack under the car.

Panel the ceiling and add 8" of cellulose across the top. At the bottom of all the walls, trim with 2 X 6 treated lumber (so wet won't hurt it) and then you can use drywall up from there for 1 row. Second row use 3/4" plywood all the way around the shop so you can attach whatever anywhere you want and don't need a stud. Drywall the rest. Ad 4 rows of shop lights, I have about 20, 2 bulb lights and each row is on a separate switch. I also built a office/storage/parts room in one corner, 10 X 20'.
Do ALL this before the first car comes in or you'll never get it all done. Once you start working in it, clutter keeps you from finishing.

My cabinets came from Harbor Freight. They still have them, watch the ads for sales on them. They are metal with metal pegboard backs, come with 3 shelves for each and pegboard hooks and shelf supports. They are about 4' long and 30" tall and most importantly only 8" deep. You can't bury anything way in the back to never be seen again.

AS to heat, I have Geo-therm and it costs me $35.00 a month averaged over 2 years, to heat and cool. I keep it @ 75° in the summer and about 60° in the winter, I may turn it up or down depending on how much I'm working in it.

A heated floor will make a lot of difference also, but more bucks to install, but may save on heat later. Look into it.

Last, talk to several contractors, shop owners, builders and suchlike and ask for their experiences/recommendations doing quality jobs in your area.

Good luck, Ray in Arkansas.

On Jan 17, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Bill Leahy wrote:

charlie, i built my new garage 24x30 and wished i had 30x30 / these dang cars are longer than ya think / billllllll in windy kennewick, washington

On Jan 17, 2012, at 3:17 PM, charlies@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:charlies%40xplornet.com> wrote:

> Hi Group,
> While this does not directly relate to 300 autos, it will someday be the home and restoration centre for these beasts. I'm in the planning stages of building a workshop for my wrenching - tired of working on gravel and at minus whatever. The size of the wokshop will be 24 x 40 and will have a lift. I'd be interested to hear any sort of recomendations that any members may have in regard to my new wokshop - what worked well or didn't work well in some of your shops - or what they may have done differently or added. Thanks to all, Charlie in Ottawa, 62 Sport
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