George: TC-W3 is the additive package contained in marine 2-cycle oil. When you go looking for the marine oil, you'll see "TC-W3" marked on the container. If the mark is missing, you don't want that oil. I don't think there would be any problem running Stabil with the marine oil. Again - Check out the LS1 forum thread : http://www.ls1.com/forums/f48/been-testing-91206/ There are many questions (like yours) answered there much better than I can answer them. Rip ________________________________ From: "News4ge@xxxxxxx" <News4ge@xxxxxxx> To: ripinator@xxxxxxxxxxx; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] frequency of oil changes What is TC - W3? Also, is there a problem with running 2 stroke oil and Stabil together? And, is there a difference in 2 stroke oils re: synthetic vs. petroleum? George Clineman -----Original Message----- From: CAROLL RIPLEY mailto:ripinator%40verizon.net> To: Larry Jabin mailto:larry%40pwbsfo.com>; Steve Albu mailto:saforwardlook%40gmail.com>; Jim Kelly mailto:gmman4%40yahoo.com> Cc: chrysler300 mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, Feb 24, 2013 2:38 pm Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] frequency of oil changes Larry: I've been running the marine 2-cycle oil in all our vehicles for a rew years now. In a couple of them, the improvement in engine smoothness and mileage was very noticeable. My wife's Lincoln Town Car really likes the marine oil with the TC-W3 package. It is getting noticeably better mileage and it runs smoother. My '65 Harley ElectraGlide runs better too. It runs and feels like it feels when the air outside is really cold. The electric fuel pump in my 2002 Camaro Z-28 Police runs quieter and the mileage in that car was quite good on a trip to South Carolina two years ago. I did not run less than 75 mph, and I calculated a bit over 26 mpg with the last fill up before arriving home. I feel that the extra bit of lubrication that the marine 2-cycle oil provides in the fuel system is a very positive property, and the lubrication provided to the valves and the ring pack improve combustion - hence the smoother running engines in my "fleet." I have been buying the marine 2-cycle oil by the gallon at WalMart (their house brand). I think it runs about $13.00 or so around here. The Penzoil brand referred to in the LS1 "Been Testing" article is much more expensive. As long as you run a 2-cycle oil with the TC-W3 package, you are good to go. BTW, I recommended the TC-W3 regimine to a friend of mine who put in the gas tank of his wife's car - and didn't tell her. A week later his wife asked him if he did something to the car, because it was running much better. . . I know this is all anecdotal evidence, but I am certainly convinced. Try it. You'll like it. And you can't hurt anything. Rip ________________________________ From: Larry Jabin mailto:larry%40pwbsfo.com> To: CAROLL RIPLEY mailto:ripinator%40verizon.net>; Steve Albu mailto:saforwardlook%40gmail.com>; Jim Kelly mailto:gmman4%40yahoo.com> Cc: "mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:28 AM Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] frequency of oil changes Rip Could you tell us more about your results with adding this oil to the fuel Thank You Larry From: mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of CAROLL RIPLEY Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:50 AM To: Steve Albu; Jim Kelly Cc: mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] frequency of oil changes Steve: Regarding our crappy fuel and ethanol, you may want to check out the info in the following link from the LS1 forum: http://www.ls1.com/forums/f48/been-testing-91206/ I have been using marine two-stroke oil (one ounce to every five gallons) in all my cars for several years now, and it works very well. Please ignore some of the colorful language you may encounter over at LS1. . . Rip ________________________________ From: Steve Albu mailto:saforwardlook%40gmail.com> To: Jim Kelly mailto:gmman4%40yahoo.com> Cc: "mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] frequency of oil changes Interesting that you ask that question, as I also had the same one and decided to call the technical support folks at Valvoline and Shell about it. The answer I got was that if the oil isn't dark looking, don't waste your money on changing the oil. The tech guys said that contamination causes the brownish to black evolution of used oil colors that take place over mileage and time. Contamination can come from carbon particles from the combustion process and minute rust particles from excess humidity in given climates that can materialize in both the crankcase and fuel tank. I live in California and drive my cars seldom and the humidity is typically low, and with being garaged all the time, I can go 5 years or so without any effects at all. When the oil starts to get a little brown, I usually decide to change it even though it could probably go much longer. What is more problematic to me is the crappy ethanol laden gasoline that turns to varnish in something like a year even under ideal conditions, leaving my needle/seats in the float mechanism stuck open or stuck closed when I go to try and start a car after letting it sit for a long period of time. Thus the car will either not start or the engine will flood quickly, and can lead to hydraulic lock up and engine damage if the cylinders fill up with too much gasoline. And then the accelerator pumps don't work either because that needle sticks closed too. hear that Stabil has a newly formulated product that should greatly diminish these effects, but I have not tried it yet. Does anyone have a solution to this problem or experience with the new Stabil? I will need to drive my cars more often and change the fuel more than once per year to keep things working well. But then what do I do with the used fuel? So much for ethanol in gasoline - a bad idea at best. Steve Albu On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Jim Kelly mailto:gmman4%40yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > we are getting closer to the time of starting up our collector cars that > have been in storage. I own several. i drive each one about 100 miles per > year, sometimes even less. i use valvoline vr1 racing oil. when i store > them away in the fall, i don't start them up until spring. my question: > with this scenario, how ofter should i change the oil. if i change the oil > every year, it comes out looking like honey. i am assuming i am just > throwing money out the window by changing oil so ofter. any suggestions on > how ofter i should change the oil in these cars? thanks in advance, jim > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to mailto:bob%40simplexco.com or go to http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join and select the "Leave Group" button For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylangYahoo! 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