Fw: [Chrysler300] anti stall device

["Don Verity" <d.verity@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Gang,
I guess I have to chime in here too about the "anti stall" device. I owned
my G over 20 years with a working anti stall device, and the only time I
noticed it was on a warm re-start when the idle would go up a little until
the plunger retracted. I thought it was kind of cool. I don't know what
Chrysler's exact reason for using it was, but I suspect it was to keep the
carbs from closing to fast after rapid acceleration. Pretty much like a lot
of other cars with one four barrel. There should be .010 clearance between
the plunger and linkage with the engine running warmed up at idle. The idle
is set with the big screw between the mixture screws, not the plunger on the
anti-stall device. Again, I had no stalling problems with my G which had
it's points ignition, drum brakes, mechanical fuel pump, (they do start
better with electric), and my non-working clock set at 3:00 (it was right
twice a day). I did have the electronic regulator too, but suspect that when
the wiring and connections are good the mechanical one will work just fine.
300ly,
Don

-----Original Message----- 
From: Larry Jett
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 10:58 PM
To: Bob Jasinski
Cc: 'Andy Mikonis' ; 'Chrysler 300 List'
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] anti stall device

As a 'borrower' of Bob's G a few years ago for a few weeks, and based on 23
years of owning a F, I am here to testify that the Jasinski starts and runs
like a single well prepped 4 barrel carb and must have replicated what the
factory wanted the new ram cars to perform like when new.
Larry Jett
LarryWJett@xxxxxxxxx



On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:27 PM, Bob Jasinski <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Andy:
>
> Let's go down the list:
>
> Disc Brakes: I've looked into it but have not done it, even though I'm not 
> crazy about the drum brakes, I'm still not in love with what it takes to 
> convert to disc brakes, so due diligence keeps the factory drums in place 
> and working.
>
> Electric fuel pump: Yes, you betcha. But, it is hidden underneath the car 
> in front of the tank. Only used to prime the carbs, the mechanical pump is 
> still in place and working. Without it, the car will not start once it 
> sits more than 2 weeks. I gave up long ago the practice of removing the 
> air cleaners and pouring gas down the carb to get it started, no thanks!
>
> Quartz clock: Again, you betcha. Keeps perfect time all the time the 
> battery is connected. I could never get the spring movement to do that.
>
> Solid state voltage regulator: Don't you just love seeing that ammeter 
> jumping back and forth like a metronome on steroids? Not me, I'll take a 
> nicely charged battery with a reliable regulator. Especially when it looks 
> like a stock part.
>
> Electronic ignition: OK, you've got me there. But it IS a Pertronix unit, 
> all in the distributor and has no separate box or wiring. Fires off much 
> faster than points. I can convert back to points in about an hour if I 
> want to.
>
> Point being, the improvements don't take away from the original look of 
> the car, just improved performance without making any statements. The 
> Anti-stall, however, is right on top, in your face, and would be the first 
> thing noticed to be missing when showing the engine compartment. In 
> addition, the 2903S stock carbs won't run properly without it, and set up 
> right, using the factory procedures, it runs well. Ram induction simply 
> doesn't look right without it.
>
> Bob J
>
>
>
> From: Andy Mikonis [mailto:r41hp@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 6:33 PM
> To: Bob Jasinski
> Cc: Chrysler 300 List
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] anti stall device
>
> Gee, Bob, I always thought of YOU as one of the ones who thinks they can 
> do it better than Chrysler engineers. What with your posts over the years 
> about conversions to: disc brakes, electric fuel pumps, quartz clock 
> movements, solid state voltage regulators, and venturing a guess, maybe 
> you use electronic ignition?
>
> Anyway, interestingly I have not had stalling problems as you and Dave 
> describe even though my anti-stall unit has not worked over my 26 years 
> and 100K + miles with my G. That said, this conversation has reminded me 
> that I do want to give mine to Jim McGowan to be redone, because I do 
> enjoy attempting to make my car work as those Chrysler engineers intended. 
> Perhaps someday I will get it there.
>
> All in good 300 fun,
> Andy
> Chicago USA
>
> On Mar 8, 2013, at 6:20 PM, "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Well, I can assure you that is not the case with my 300G. If I don't have 
> the anti-stall device properly set, my engine will die. There is no hard 
> idle adjustment capability on the original 2903S carbureted F and G cars, 
> therefore the anti-stall comes to the rescue as needed when manifold 
> vacuum drops. Do you have the original carbs on your 300F? I'm surprised 
> your mechanic decided that he knew better than the engineers at Chrysler, 
> or have your carbs been changed and the system revamped?
>
> Bob J
>
> From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> 
> [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of 
> retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:11 PM
> To: Bob Merritt
> Cc: Chrysler 300 List
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] anti stall device
>
> When my 300F was restored the engine guy said the anti stall was not 
> necessary and did not install it. I have driven the car for a long time 
> without it and it runs perfectly, if not better. I recall that before if 
> anything got a little out of adjustment the car would surge on the anti 
> surge diaphragm; especially at stop lights and was very embarrassing. At 
> idle you could open the hood and see the anti-surge plunger pumping the 
> bell-crank.
>
> If someone knows of a logical reason (other than C. E's put it there) I 
> would like to know.
> Thanks
> J
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Merritt" <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bob%40simplexco.com> 
> <mailto:bob%40simplexco.com> >
> To: "Chrysler 300 List" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> 
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 4:45:16 AM
> Subject: [Chrysler300] anti stall device
>
> From Irbann Aumann:
>
> Wanted to buy an anti stall devise for 1961 300G 413ci
> or possible a 1960 300F.
> This would be the one mounted on top of the
> long cross rams.
> NOS would be fine or a good used one
> possibly work.
> Also does any body know if there is someone
> in the club or someone else that is refurbishing these
> anti stall devises. call 1-715-387-8830 cell 1-715=613-8844
>
> or email
> laleonam3@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:laleonam3%40gmail.com> 
> <mailto:laleonam3%40gmail.com>
>
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