I am satisfied with the current format as well, but I figured that if
Hugh wants to do the work of setting up a forum format, we can see how it
works. If we still prefer this format, then I would assume this is
what we would keep.
Pete
In a message dated 12/12/2016 12:00:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
The current format works for me it is simple and to the point. I belong
to other group forums and for the low volume this is great. I vote to keep it
the same format.
Sent from my iPhone
Hello
Group:
Having read Hugh's explanation as to why he
feels the way he does, I understand his position. However, as pointed
out, setting something like that up will involve a lot of effort on
someone's part (if, in fact, it can be done on the Yahoo base). I
therefore have a suggestion -
Since Hugh is the one who believes
that this forum approach would be more beneficial, and that the present
system is more than lacking, I suggest that he be the one to
set up the forum format and administer it, at least
initially. I am sure that, if it is as advantageous as he believes it
to be, it will be embraced by the membership and may become
the standard. Otherwise, in effect, what he is doing is
suggesting that "the club" (which, of course, means Bob, Don, et al.) spend
the time and effort to set it up which, in my opinion, would be a great
imposition, in view of the work that they already do just to maintain the
list server.
So, I guess what this comes down to is how
badly Hugh wants this forum format. Do you want it enough to do the
work yourself to get it done, or do you just expect others to do it, for
your convenience?
With all due respect,
Pete Fitch
Good
morning. Sorry if I come across as negative, but this frustrates
me. I will make one more effort to make my point with you, because I
do greatly respect the membership, and want you to understand (if not
agree with) my perspective.
Modern
Car Forums do not inundate members with every email sent by every member,
for good reason. Even if the 300 Club has much lower traffic than
most of these user groups, there are still many exchanges per day that a
significant contingent of us would opt out of if they could narrow the
focus of what they see. The general migration from the “list server”
environment has occurred for that reason. You go to it, not
the other way around.
I wish
all aspects of what is exchanged currently via email was cataloged in such
a way that these “threads” could be discussed, monitored, searched and
accessed in a logical fashion. This is the strength of forums which
design an interface for the users that accomplishes these goals.
Here is an example, if you could give it a quick glance, perhaps my point
would better resonate: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/
. This is much more involved than what we would need, but the
structure is applicable. We could have a far superior organizational
gathering point.
When I
joined the group, and initially questioned the “everybody gets everything”
approach, I had many positive (private) replies supporting me.
However, I was also warned that the group was not open to change, and that
has become quite apparent. The old “just hit the delete button”
comment tells me that much of the member population is used to putting up
with unwanted content in their inbox, and doesn’t want it (or understand
that they could have it) any other way. To me, that is a puzzling
choice. Of course, my opinion is colored by experience with
other (extraordinary) forums.
But, in
the meantime, I am either lazy, a scold, or a general malcontent who has
ideas that are unsuitable. I truly enjoy many of the stories and
exchanges even if they don’t pertain to my K. They just shouldn’t
all land on my doorstep, rather I should be able to seek them out as I
have the time, and inclination to do so. This is how most user
forums survive and thrive. They also build a database of knowledge
that is invaluable, and can outlive us all, for the good of the
hobby.
Perhaps I
will just pack up my tent and leave (applause). I am sure I won’t be
the first to do so, wondering why the group comports itself in such a
fashion. I just hate the see the vast knowledge base relegated
to such a clunky (IMHO) distribution approach.
Peace-
I don't personally mind if we see some ads on the forum
such as we do from Mr. Schwandt, as long as they are not so numerous as to
be an annoying load on the Inbox. Deleting is quick. But I would like
to suggest that the link to our Club website For Sale page be noted down
in the bottom block of all of the forum posts. It would make it a
convenient and quick one-click ride for those looking to buy or sell
parts.
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I was amazed - as a rare visitor to the page - by how
few ads (22!) there are on the page. So maybe providing the link will make
it a more popular place to use for the sharing of our
parts.
On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 6:37 PM, cbilter@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
To all: most members are
aware of this, but as a reminder we do have a classified ad section for
parts on the website that the whole world can see (for broad exposure),
and photos can be included as well http://www.chrysler300club.com/rcmstuff/partsforsale.html
As
far as the listserver goes, if the parts ads are applicable to Chrysler
300s, then they should be appropriate content per the listserver
rules.
Carl Bilter
Electronics Communication
Committee
From: Anna F Noia sa-noia@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Saturday,
December 10, 2016 4:45 PM
To: Val Jeffers; EMills_ATC; Hugh Baldus;
David Schwandt; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Club; Ray Jones
Subject:
Re: [Chrysler300] Using the listserver to actively sell
parts
To All
I agree with Ray, just delete what
you don't want to look at. I like to see the interesting, rare, obscure
and unobtainable stuff available from this site, even if I don't need
it. I have purchased some things I didn't know was available until I saw
them, to me that's a plus. I personally like this site. IMHO.
Best
Regards,
Stephen A. Noia
1-408-210-4736 cell
On Saturday,
December 10, 2016 2:05 PM, "Val Jeffers edward1108@xxxxxxxxx
[Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I agree Hugh !
On Saturday, December 10,
2016 4:18 PM, "EMills_ATC millserat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Personally I don't mind - unless it gets a lot
more frequent that it currently is - but if there were a Classified
section on this site, that would be fine too as long as its easily
accessible - I find it cumbersome to log onto the yahoo site.
Edward
Mills Antique Tractors 1930-1960 Antique Cars 1960-1985
On 12/10/2016
3:11 PM, Hugh Baldus hugh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] wrote:
Anyone else, besides me, prefer not to receive an email every time
David has something to sell? And then, another email when it is no
longer for sale (gasp). I find it tedious and intrusive, and not a
good use of the forum.
“Hey, I need an obscure part
for my E”: Just fine for mass distribution (until our forum works
like other bulletin boards, and not everyone sees everything anybody
sends).
Hey, I have an obscure part to sell for
’61-‘64s”: Not ok. This belongs in a classified section
somewhere else, like on a website.
Thank
you,
Hugh Baldus
260.424.2366
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 'David
Schwandt' finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent:
Saturday, December 10, 2016 1:47 PM
To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Club
Subject:
[Chrysler300] NOS Parts 1236-219
Pinion gear set.
(2 gears) NOS in unopened original boxes
Fits all 55-56 6
and 8 cyl except Imperial
Also fits all 57-58-59 6 cyl.
Check your
parts books to be certain.
$25 PPD in
USA
Thanks!
Dave Schwandt
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