Hugh:
There is an alternative - you do not have to be on
the list server. Your roster of members gives you the e-mails of the
members and identifies the consultants for each model year. Should you
have a question, you could simply e-mail the appropriate person to ascertain the
information you seek. You would still have the publications and the meets,
should you decide to attend, and you wouldn't be bothered with all those e-mails
on the server.
regards,
Pete Fitch
In a message dated 12/12/2016 12:16:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
No, but
thanks for the kind offer, Pete. As you broadly intimate, I was purely
seeking my own selfish gain.
I will simply
accept that, in this case, the love of vintage autos is inexorably linked with
the love of vintage communication.
From: pffkllc@xxxxxxx [mailto:pffkllc@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 11:52 AM
To: Hugh Baldus;
kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx; cbilter@xxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Using the
listserver to actively sell parts
Having read
Hugh's explanation as to why he feels the way he does, I understand his
position. However, as pointed out, setting something like that up
will involve a lot of effort on someone's part (if, in fact, it can be done on
the Yahoo base). I therefore have a suggestion -
Since Hugh is
the one who believes that this forum approach would be more beneficial,
and that the present system is more than lacking, I suggest that he be
the one to set up the forum format and administer it, at least
initially. I am sure that, if it is as advantageous as he believes it to
be, it will be embraced by the membership and may become
the standard. Otherwise, in effect, what he is doing is
suggesting that "the club" (which, of course, means Bob, Don, et al.) spend
the time and effort to set it up which, in my opinion, would be a great
imposition, in view of the work that they already do just to maintain the list
server.
So, I guess what
this comes down to is how badly Hugh wants this forum format. Do you
want it enough to do the work yourself to get it done, or do you just expect
others to do it, for your convenience?
Good
morning. Sorry if I come across as negative, but this frustrates
me. I will make one more effort to make my point with you, because I
do greatly respect the membership, and want you to understand (if not agree
with) my perspective.
Modern Car
Forums do not inundate members with every email sent by every member, for
good reason. Even if the 300 Club has much lower traffic than most of
these user groups, there are still many exchanges per day that a significant
contingent of us would opt out of if they could narrow the focus of what
they see. The general migration from the “list server” environment has
occurred for that reason. You go to it, not the other way
around.
I wish all
aspects of what is exchanged currently via email was cataloged in such a way
that these “threads” could be discussed, monitored, searched and accessed in
a logical fashion. This is the strength of forums which design an
interface for the users that accomplishes these goals. Here is an
example, if you could give it a quick glance, perhaps my point would better
resonate: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/
. This is much more involved than what we would need, but the
structure is applicable. We could have a far superior organizational
gathering point.
When I
joined the group, and initially questioned the “everybody gets everything”
approach, I had many positive (private) replies supporting me.
However, I was also warned that the group was not open to change, and that
has become quite apparent. The old “just hit the delete button”
comment tells me that much of the member population is used to putting up
with unwanted content in their inbox, and doesn’t want it (or understand
that they could have it) any other way. To me, that is a puzzling
choice. Of course, my opinion is colored by experience with
other (extraordinary) forums.
But, in the
meantime, I am either lazy, a scold, or a general malcontent who has ideas
that are unsuitable. I truly enjoy many of the stories and exchanges
even if they don’t pertain to my K. They just shouldn’t all land on my
doorstep, rather I should be able to seek them out as I have the time, and
inclination to do so. This is how most user forums survive and
thrive. They also build a database of knowledge that is invaluable,
and can outlive us all, for the good of the hobby.
Perhaps I
will just pack up my tent and leave (applause). I am sure I won’t be
the first to do so, wondering why the group comports itself in such a
fashion. I just hate the see the vast knowledge base relegated
to such a clunky (IMHO) distribution approach.
Peace-
I don't personally mind if we
see some ads on the forum such as we do from Mr. Schwandt, as long as they
are not so numerous as to be an annoying load on the Inbox. Deleting is
quick. But I would like to suggest that the link to our Club website
For Sale page be noted down in the bottom block of all of the forum posts.
It would make it a convenient and quick one-click ride for those looking to
buy or sell parts.
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I was amazed - as a rare
visitor to the page - by how few ads (22!) there are on the page. So maybe
providing the link will make it a more popular place to use for the sharing
of our parts.
On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 6:37
PM, cbilter@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
<Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
To all: most members are aware of
this, but as a reminder we do have a classified ad section for parts on the
website that the whole world can see (for broad exposure), and photos can be
included as well http://www.chrysler300club.com/rcmstuff/partsforsale.html
As
far as the listserver goes, if the parts ads are applicable to Chrysler
300s, then they should be appropriate content per the listserver
rules.
Carl Bilter
Electronics Communication
Committee
From: Anna F Noia sa-noia@xxxxxxxxxxx
[Chrysler300]
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:45 PM
To: Val
Jeffers; EMills_ATC; Hugh Baldus; David Schwandt; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Club; Ray Jones
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Using the listserver to
actively sell parts
To All
I agree with Ray, just
delete what you don't want to look at. I like to see the interesting, rare,
obscure and unobtainable stuff available from this site, even if I
don't need it. I have purchased some things I didn't know was available
until I saw them, to me that's a plus. I personally like this site.
IMHO.
Best Regards,
Stephen A. Noia
1-408-210-4736 cell
On
Saturday, December 10, 2016 2:05 PM, "Val Jeffers edward1108@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]"
<Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I agree Hugh !
On Saturday, December 10,
2016 4:18 PM, "EMills_ATC millserat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Personally I don't mind - unless it gets a lot more
frequent that it currently is - but if there were a Classified section on
this site, that would be fine too as long as its easily accessible - I find
it cumbersome to log onto the yahoo site.
Edward Mills Antique Tractors
1930-1960 Antique Cars 1960-1985
On 12/10/2016 3:11 PM, Hugh Baldus hugh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
wrote:
Anyone else, besides me, prefer not to receive an email
every time David has something to sell? And then, another email when
it is no longer for sale (gasp). I find it tedious and intrusive, and
not a good use of the forum.
“Hey, I need an obscure
part for my E”: Just fine for mass distribution (until our forum works
like other bulletin boards, and not everyone sees everything anybody
sends).
Hey, I have an obscure part to sell for
’61-‘64s”: Not ok. This belongs in a classified section
somewhere else, like on a website.
Thank
you,
Hugh Baldus
260.424.2366
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of 'David Schwandt' finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[Chrysler300]
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 1:47 PM
To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Club
Subject: [Chrysler300] NOS Parts 1236-219
Pinion gear set. (2 gears) NOS in unopened original boxes
Fits
all 55-56 6 and 8 cyl except Imperial
Also fits all 57-58-59 6
cyl.
Check your parts books to be certain.
$25 PPD in
USA
Thanks!
Dave Schwandt
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