RE: [Chrysler300] Using the listserver to actively sell parts

No, but thanks for the kind offer, Pete. As you broadly intimate, I was purely seeking my own selfish gain.

I will simply accept that, in this case, the love of vintage autos is inexorably linked with the love of vintage communication.

Hugh Baldus

260.424.2366

From: pffkllc@xxxxxxx [mailto:pffkllc@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 11:52 AM
To: Hugh Baldus; kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx; cbilter@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Using the listserver to actively sell parts

Hello Group:

Having read Hugh's explanation as to why he feels the way he does, I understand his position. However, as pointed out, setting something like that up will involve a lot of effort on someone's part (if, in fact, it can be done on the Yahoo base). I therefore have a suggestion -

Since Hugh is the one who believes that this forum approach would be more beneficial, and that the present system is more than lacking, I suggest that he be the one to set up the forum format and administer it, at least initially. I am sure that, if it is as advantageous as he believes it to be, it will be embraced by the membership and may become the standard. Otherwise, in effect, what he is doing is suggesting that "the club" (which, of course, means Bob, Don, et al.) spend the time and effort to set it up which, in my opinion, would be a great imposition, in view of the work that they already do just to maintain the list server.

So, I guess what this comes down to is how badly Hugh wants this forum format. Do you want it enough to do the work yourself to get it done, or do you just expect others to do it, for your convenience?

With all due respect,

Pete Fitch

In a message dated 12/12/2016 9:08:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

Good morning. Sorry if I come across as negative, but this frustrates me. I will make one more effort to make my point with you, because I do greatly respect the membership, and want you to understand (if not agree with) my perspective.

Modern Car Forums do not inundate members with every email sent by every member, for good reason. Even if the 300 Club has much lower traffic than most of these user groups, there are still many exchanges per day that a significant contingent of us would opt out of if they could narrow the focus of what they see. The general migration from the “list server” environment has occurred for that reason. You go to it, not the other way around.

I wish all aspects of what is exchanged currently via email was cataloged in such a way that these “threads” could be discussed, monitored, searched and accessed in a logical fashion. This is the strength of forums which design an interface for the users that accomplishes these goals. Here is an example, if you could give it a quick glance, perhaps my point would better resonate: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/ . This is much more involved than what we would need, but the structure is applicable. We could have a far superior organizational gathering point.

When I joined the group, and initially questioned the “everybody gets everything” approach, I had many positive (private) replies supporting me. However, I was also warned that the group was not open to change, and that has become quite apparent. The old “just hit the delete button” comment tells me that much of the member population is used to putting up with unwanted content in their inbox, and doesn’t want it (or understand that they could have it) any other way. To me, that is a puzzling choice. Of course, my opinion is colored by experience with other (extraordinary) forums.

But, in the meantime, I am either lazy, a scold, or a general malcontent who has ideas that are unsuitable. I truly enjoy many of the stories and exchanges even if they don’t pertain to my K. They just shouldn’t all land on my doorstep, rather I should be able to seek them out as I have the time, and inclination to do so. This is how most user forums survive and thrive. They also build a database of knowledge that is invaluable, and can outlive us all, for the good of the hobby.

Perhaps I will just pack up my tent and leave (applause). I am sure I won’t be the first to do so, wondering why the group comports itself in such a fashion. I just hate the see the vast knowledge base relegated to such a clunky (IMHO) distribution approach.

Peace-

Hugh Baldus

260.424.2366

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Boonstra kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 9:10 PM
To: C Bilter
Cc: Chrysler 300 List
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Using the listserver to actively sell parts

I don't personally mind if we see some ads on the forum such as we do from Mr. Schwandt, as long as they are not so numerous as to be an annoying load on the Inbox. Deleting is quick. But I would like to suggest that the link to our Club website For Sale page be noted down in the bottom block of all of the forum posts. It would make it a convenient and quick one-click ride for those looking to buy or sell parts.

Like this:

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To visit the Chysler 300 Club Intl. "For Sale" page go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/rcmstuff/partsforsale.html

To send a message to this group, send an email to:
Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or
go to https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/all/manage/edit

For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm

For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylang

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I was amazed - as a rare visitor to the page - by how few ads (22!) there are on the page. So maybe providing the link will make it a more popular place to use for the sharing of our parts.

Keith Boonstra

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On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 6:37 PM, cbilter@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

To all: most members are aware of this, but as a reminder we do have a classified ad section for parts on the website that the whole world can see (for broad exposure), and photos can be included as well http://www.chrysler300club.com/rcmstuff/partsforsale.html

As far as the listserver goes, if the parts ads are applicable to Chrysler 300s, then they should be appropriate content per the listserver rules.

Carl Bilter
Electronics Communication Committee

From: Anna F Noia sa-noia@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:45 PM
To: Val Jeffers; EMills_ATC; Hugh Baldus; David Schwandt; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Club; Ray Jones
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Using the listserver to actively sell parts

To All
I agree with Ray, just delete what you don't want to look at. I like to see the interesting, rare, obscure and unobtainable stuff available from this site, even if I don't need it. I have purchased some things I didn't know was available until I saw them, to me that's a plus. I personally like this site. IMHO.
Best Regards,
Stephen A. Noia
1-408-210-4736 cell

On Saturday, December 10, 2016 2:05 PM, "Val Jeffers edward1108@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I agree Hugh !

On Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:18 PM, "EMills_ATC millserat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Personally I don't mind - unless it gets a lot more frequent that it currently is - but if there were a Classified section on this site, that would be fine too as long as its easily accessible - I find it cumbersome to log onto the yahoo site.
Edward Mills Antique Tractors 1930-1960 Antique Cars 1960-1985
On 12/10/2016 3:11 PM, Hugh Baldus hugh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] wrote:

Anyone else, besides me, prefer not to receive an email every time David has something to sell? And then, another email when it is no longer for sale (gasp). I find it tedious and intrusive, and not a good use of the forum.

“Hey, I need an obscure part for my E”: Just fine for mass distribution (until our forum works like other bulletin boards, and not everyone sees everything anybody sends).

Hey, I have an obscure part to sell for ’61-‘64s”: Not ok. This belongs in a classified section somewhere else, like on a website.

Thank you,

Hugh Baldus
260.424.2366

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 'David Schwandt' finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 1:47 PM
To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Club
Subject: [Chrysler300] NOS Parts 1236-219

Pinion gear set. (2 gears) NOS in unopened original boxes
Fits all 55-56 6 and 8 cyl except Imperial
Also fits all 57-58-59 6 cyl.
Check your parts books to be certain.

$25 PPD in USA

Thanks!
Dave Schwandt

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