well since the awbs were made in 1965 i am guessing they used 65 bars.???? I dunno, they dont say much about where the bars came from for the awbs, they just say they were 5o inch imperial bars neal zimmerman, eugene oregon -- http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. bOyW3N.