Doug you are the man. Thanks so much! I don't think I can get the same color and it will inevitably look strange. I will start with the primer grey, and see what I can go with from there. Since I am using a rattle can, shiny colors will be a bad plan ;) And just to note, the rust red, was rust ;) I am still picking flakes of the stuff out of my ears and eyes from all that grinding. The good thing was I found the rust looked worse than it was...there were no holes at all. Not bad from granny's little ride! Thanks again Doug! MJ -- Menko Johnson http://menko.no-ip.com/portfolio menkoj@xxxxxxxxx