Re: Over heating

[doug daniel <dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx>]

if you do not need heat you don't need a thermostat but a shroud and a 7 blade fan,,,,,,,is a must ,,,clutch fan is not needed either 

--- On Thu, 6/24/10, Butch Edison <waedison@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Butch Edison <waedison@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Over heating
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 10:59 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> For what it's worth.... I'm travelling the same path with
> my 64 Sport Fury 383. Within 5 minutes of starting and
> driving, it's running at 210 degrees F in 60-70 degree
> weather. If I stop, it immediately starts climbing into
> the 120s. I can watch the temps go straight up on my
> infrared gun. It ran hot before, but since finding it had
> no thermostat and putting in a new one, it's a lot worse.
>  It has a new 180 degree thermostat. I had the system back
> flushed and the tech said it was actually pretty clean. 
> 
> 
> 
> Not being a guy for incremental solutions, I'm going to be
> doing several things this weekend: 
> 
> 
> 
> * Replace missing fan shroud 
> 
> * Replace missing air dam 
> 
> * Replace missing hood-to-radiator gasket 
> 
> * Install correct fan and clutch fan 
> 
> ** Install "Cool Cruising" high performance water pump 
> 
> ** Install "Cool Crusing" 160 degree thermostat, per their
> recommendation. 
> 
> 
> 
> Now, if this doesn't solve the problem, I think I'm looking
> at three things left: 
> 
> * possibly bottom radiator hose is collapsing, restricting
> flow.It seems to be really stiff, but they don't come with
> springs in them anymore, so maybe... 
> 
> * New radiator, although the radiator shop thinks this one
> is fine 
> 
> * Take the engine apart and see what's blocking flow 
> 
> 
> 
> Now, it could be that my water pump is just going bad on
> it's own and putting a stock replacement in would cure this,
> but my experience with water pumps is they generally make
> noise or leak when they start going bad, which this one has
> not done. 
> 
> 
> 
> I'll let you all know if this works. Suggestions from you
> guys are ALWAYS appreciated. 
> 
> 
> 
> /Butch/Ferndale, WA 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff" <chargr1969@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:16:56 PM GMT -08:00
> US/Canada Pacific 
> Subject: RE: Over heating 
> 
> yes a 180 thermostat. is very helpful.   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 6/23/10, Cory Rempel <cory_383@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote: 
> 
> > From: Cory Rempel <cory_383@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > Subject: RE: Over heating 
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 9:28 PM 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanx Ollie, but I DO have a big block 3 core rad.  
> > And dodger, tanx for the advice on the thermostat.  I
> 
> > didn't even think about that one.  If that and the 
> > shroud thing  don't work, then I don't know what 
> > will.  
> >   
> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > > From: satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > > Subject: Re: Over heating 
> > > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:43:47 -0500 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Cory, 
> > > Greetings from Mississippi...Its your radiator
> and 
> > water capacity. That 318 
> > > radiator will not cool a 440. Trust me I know. If
> it 
> > is a custom built 
> > > aluminum, 3 core, 1 1/4 inch cores, cross flow,
> that 
> > bolt into your stock 
> > > radiator support..............you might have a
> chance. 
> > I doubt it. 
> > > Ollie 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Cory Rempel" <cory_383@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:24 PM 
> > > Subject: Over heating 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Greetings from Canada. Just put a 440 into
> my 65 
> > Polara which was 
> > > > originally a 318 poly. The 318 never over
> heated, 
> > but this 440 constantly 
> > > > runs very hot. To the point where it starts
> to 
> > ping. It's got a big 
> > > > block rad in it and the water pump is good.
> The 
> > only thing I can think of 
> > > > is that I don't have a shroud. Can a shroud
> make 
> > that big of a 
> > > > difference? I've never had this problem
> before. 
> > Suggestions would be 
> > > > appreciated? 
> > > > 
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