From: Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Need a new Toy?
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, May 6, 2011, 6:05 AM
Stan,
I should have re-read my last post to your e-mail; I
sounded like a defamatory horsepower's a--. I
apologize for appearing to demean your experience or right
to an opinon...of course that is not what I intended. My
data and build info.was meant to share some surprising
output potential and real world gains using a modicum
of low-tech performance parts in a throw-away motor
and my offering of information did not validate your
"comments/opinions;" your experience far surpasses mine by a
long shot.
My last paragraph was pompous and arrogant sounding; the
intent was with some Poly Hot-Rod mod info.you may realize
that there was more power and design proficiency than first
appears...though not meant to compete in the same arena as a
true super stock Max Wedge or HEMI engine.
Additionally, a Max Wedge is Streetable if build for that
purpose.
Thank you,
Gary Pavlovich
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Kafouse" <skafouse@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: Need a new Toy?
They are pretty short Im sure, there also small, keeps
velocity up. Combined with small carb bores you'd get good
thottle response.
Neat engine to play with, but if the heads were any good
someone would be expanding on there design. Dont get upset,
this is just MY OPINION.
Ive built stock and super stock max wedge engines and
worked on a cup team as a machinst. I dont see how a tunnel
ram on a small engine will have any streetability. Again
just my opinion.
--- On Thu, 5/5/11, Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
> From: Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Need a new Toy?
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 5:23 AM
>
> Stan,
>
> How long are the runners in a stock Poly dual quad
intake
> or the Weiand
> single four Poly intake?
>
> Gary P.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Kafouse"
<skafouse@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 3:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Need a new Toy?
>
>
> So... how tall is this "tunnel ram"? Carb
> and air cleaner will take what
> eight inches themselves? Plus clearance so engine can
> torque over and not
> hit hood. Is it an individual runner or common
plenum?
> Those short runners
> will have no bottom end, and if manifold is any good
at all
> will flow more
> than any poly head ever did. Got a cam and convertor
to
> match intake? Sounds
> neat, dont think it will work, cept for some wow
factor.
>
> --- On Wed, 5/4/11, Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Need a new Toy?
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 9:38 PM
> >
> > Yes, I don't think any modern intake can beat a
Tunnel
> Ram
> > for Max HP & Torque, even the "old school"
> Weiands...of
> > course a tunnel is not a user-friendly manifold
for
> the
> > average Hot-Rodder due to height (for one) which
> requires no
> > hood or a cut-out for clearance.
> >
> > I will be running a Tunnel Ram on my Poly but I
> designed
> > the manifold to fit under the hood...of course I
have
> more
> > hood clearance than most people (approx. 16" from
top
> of
> > block face) so I can get away with a "tall
enough"
> > tunnel ram to make it effective and still have
the
> stealth
> > factor.
> >
> > Gary Pavlovich
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim
Altemose"
> <jaltemoose@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 8:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: Need a new Toy?
> >
> >
> > Indy refers to it as an "In-Line Cross Ram".
> >
> > Below is a comparison of the manifolds. Looks
like
> > the Tunnel Ram won out.
> > http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/engine/mopp_0911_intake_manifold_tests/index.html
> >
> > - Jim
> > Jim Altemose, Long Island, NY
> > '63 Polara 500 (Max Wedge)
> > '63 Polara 500 (383)
> > '65 Belvedere I (Street Wedge)
> > '71 Bronco
> >
> > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Roger Pettigrew
> <dodger7998@xxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok,,,,,will take your word for it,, would
have to
> see
> > the intake it self to
> > > understand,,,,,,, sure looks like an inline
set
> up to
> > me
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 5/3/2011 11:14:58 A.M.
> Central
> > Daylight Time,
> > > mcreglow@xxxxxxxxx
> > writes:
> > >
> > > actually that is a cross ram. that is the
indy
> > cylinder head x-ram,
> > > and is the hot ticket for nostalgia super
stock
> > racing.
> > > http://www.usaperform.com/indy-chrysler-cross-manifolds-p-231.html
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Roger
Pettigrew
> <dodger7998@xxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Nice toy,,,,,,,makes me wonder what the
real
> story
> > is on cars that are
> > >> obviously misdescribed in their
> description,,,,,,,
> > that is definitely
> > > not a
> > >> crossram on it, so makes me wonder what
else
> is
> > not being seen
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> In a message dated 5/1/2011 4:03:10
P.M.
> Central
> > Daylight Time,
> > >> shelby_nut@xxxxxxxxx
> > writes:
> > >>
> > >>
> > > http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1963-plymouth-savoy-W0
> > >> QQAdIdZ279189587
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