RE: IML: 70 rear axle

["Robin Giesbrecht" <robings@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

At first I found myself wishing I had suregrip in my 72. I have owned and 
own some powerful cars with suregrip and it is a good thing if you know how 
to deal with it. But driving the Imperial on icy snow covered highways every 
week I can say I am pretty pleased with the fact that this car does not have 
suregrip. More than once I have been accelerating away from overtaking 
another vehicle and the Imperial has stepped out on me. I just catch it and 
continue but the reason it steps out is because I am feeling so comfortable 
driving in poor road conditions. If it had sure grip the car would really be 
a hand full when this happened. Because when this car starts going well.... 
I once put it completely sideways right in front of another car that I had 
slowed down to pass. I recovered but we went back and forth a few 
times.Luckily I was going only about 40-50 mph and lots of room to recover. 
That poor soul in the other car must have had a fit. From experience 
suregrip in a powerful car on a real icy road will spit you into the ditch 
faster than you know what is happening. Done that before several 
times.Teaches you to respect it.

Robin Giesbrecht
72 Imperial
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> Subject: RE: IML: 70 rear axle
> Date: Tue,  8 Feb 2005 10:51:57 -0600
>
> Quoting Peter Engel <peter.engel@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>
> > Also, be careful in your desire for a sure grip rear axle.  In my 
> experience
> > these are more hassle than they're worth for a big, heavy car.  First of
> > all, how are you driving to worry about rear tire spin in a 5000# 
> Imperial?
> > Second, the "posi" will come back to bite you in the butt in snow or 
> other
> > slippery conditions.  Instead of the "loose" wheel spinning, both WILL
> > spin... and the back end of the car will shift sideways toward the 
> downhill
> > side.  Right into a curb or ditch.  At least that's been my experience.
> > Very unnerving to have 15' of Imperial behind you "kick out."
>
>
> My Sedan has Suregrip.  The snow and mad traction is really great.  In 
> fact, I
> was once stuck in the mad in the Lebaron (non-SureGrip, did not know at the
> time).  I backed into the mad (the first say I bought it) thinking nothing
> about it, because my Sedan would have never had any problems, and got stuck
> (cops all around could have helped, but they had no interest in protecting 
> and
> serving, but that's another story).  In fact, in many ocasions, I have 
> crossed
> semi-flooded maddy medians with the Sedan, and everybody around were 
> probably
> laughing, expecting me to get stuck, but the Sure Grip dissapointed them.  
> In
> the snow, the Sure Gripped car has wonderful stablity and acceleration, and 
> you
> can get the rear end loose with lots of control.  On the wet though its a
> different story.  The oversteer usually comes slow and controlable, but
> sometimes the rear end can get loose too fast, faster than the steering can
> catch.  I have never driven the non-SureGrip LeBaron in the snow or ice to
> compare.
>
> D^2, 2x68
>
>
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