Re: IML: 64 Imperials Upholstery

["A. Foster" <monkeypuzzle1@xxxxxxx>]

Chris;
  That molded plastic piping may have been what the factory used originally
but it still seems rather a cheesey thing to use while the rest of the seat
is leather or cloth. They do still sell coloured plastic piping, whether it
is the same as the product you describe I don't know, but must upholterers
regard it as inferior to the type they can make themselves and don't use it.
Part of the problem with it is that it is stiff and tears itself away from
the corners, it also can split where it was sewn through. I suspect that
part of the motivation to use originally it was related to labour, material
cost, or both, since it would come ready made on a 500' roll. My 54'
Imperial uses the other type where a cord or wire was wrapped with leather
first, it was more labor intensive to make but I think that it looks a
little more classy.
Best Regards
Arran Foster
1954 Imperial Newport
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Hawkins" <imperial1966@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: IML: 64 Imperials Upholstery


Actually, 1964-66 Imperials use a color-keyed molded
plastic welting - very thin and delicate in scale.  It
is impossible to replicate by wrapping material around
a cord.

Seeing fat welting made with leather or vinyl is one
of the easiest ways to tell if an Imperial of this era
has been reupholstered.

Chris H.

66 LeBaron

--- "A. Foster" <monkeypuzzle1@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi;
>   Welting or piping is not a problem, most
> upholsterers with a lick of sense
> make their own by wrapping a strip of leather,
> cloth, or vinyl of the
> appropriate colour and pattern around a cord of the
> appropriate size while
> sewing the cover together. Someone referred to the
> vertical pattern in the
> seat panel as rolls, most car seats from this era
> didn't use tuck and roll
> upholstery but used either a quilted pattern, an
> English pleat, or no
> pattern at all. A quilted pattern is sewn just like
> the one on a bed, a flat
> pad is sewn inbetween with the stitches showing
> through the top. With an
> English pleat, or hidden stitch, the stitches are
> not visable, much like
> tuck and roll, but the padding is sewn inbetween
> much like quilting. Tuck
> and roll is really a series of cloth tubes sewn
> together and then stuffed
> afterward, much like a sausage, the effect is much
> more rounded then English
> pleat.
> Best Regards
> Arran Foster
> 1954 Imperial Newport
> Needing A Left Side tailight bezel and other trim
> parts.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Hawkins" <imperial1966@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:24 AM
> Subject: Re: IML: 64 Imperials
>
>
> Unlike most Imperials of the '60's, the 64
> convertible
> upholstery pattern is relatively simple to re-create
> authentically.   The only problem you might have is
> finding black welting delicate enough to match the
> original.  Also, pay attention to the  grain and
> sheen
> of the leather you buy.  Most new leather today
> looked
> sunbaked and chalky compared to the glossy leathers
> used in 1964. Specify a gloss finish.
>
> Definitely go this route.  Finding a worthy used
> interior is likely to be nearly impossible.  By the
> time you ship it and go through the process of
> dyeing
> it you'll wish you had reupholstered your originals
> instead.
>
> There is a thin chrome band encircling the top well
> opening, with fasteners at regular intervals.
>
> Chris H.
>
> 66 LeBaron
>
>
>
> --- GPAGENCY@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I'm a new member and was looking for some advise
> on
> > my 64 conv. The  interior
> > needs new black leather on all the seats (torn).
> Am
> > I wasting  my time trying
> > to find good used seats? I assume the color won't
> > matter since I  can dye
> > them black as long as they are decent seats?
> > Was there a chrome strip at the rear of the conv
> top
> > well near trunk or did
> > the tonneau cover it?
> > Speaking of tonneau covers, anyone doing repairs
> on
> > them? Are they  available
> > or reproduced?
> > What a great club you have here. I have already
> been
> > able to find so  much
> > helpful information.
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
> >
>
>
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