I dunno about that Venturi effect pump, Kerry - I suspect it is not going to be adequate. I too have a Robinaire setup: nothing but the best, with tightly closing valves, and the ability to run it the other way to evacuate a canister back into the system so one can save the precious R12 during a repair. My experience with Harbor Freight is that their "house" brand of anything is a piece of ----! They do have decent deals on name brands, occasionally, but you have to watch real close on the names - they are very cute copies sometimes. If it's made in China, it ain't worth the paper it's packed in - not that I'm biased or anything! Dick Benjamin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Pinkerton" <pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:39 AM Subject: Re: IML: 68, R134 conversion > Harbor Freight sells a venturi style Vacuum pump for just a few bucks (less > than 20 I think). It requires an air compressor but will pull about 26 > inches of mercury. A good vacuum pump will pull 28. I got a Robinaire pump > from Ebay for about 120 bucks and love it. The HF thing will work though > and R134 is cheap if you have to have it redone. > > KerryP > Patch panels fabricated > Pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx > dte.net/57imperial > Imperials -- 50 Limo, 57 roadster, 61's, 62, 68 Convert, 73, a 66 300 and a > bunch of lesser marques > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <chrysler1978@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 11:02 PM > Subject: Re: IML: 68, R134 conversion > > > > How do you go about "vacuuming the system"? How do you pressurize it to > > test for leaks? How do you detect a small leak? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dick Benjamin" <dickb@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:17 PM > > Subject: Re: IML: 68, R134 conversion > > > > > > I converted my 55 Hudson about 3 years ago, and my 56 Packard about 2 > years > > ago - both are still cooling well. > > > > My son converted his 94 Jeep about 3 years ago also, and it is still > working > > well. > > > > In all of these conversions, I first vacuumed the system and checked for > > leaks - and fixed the ones I found. I did not replace the original hoses > > (they were not leaking). I had a bad evaporator valve (leaker) in the > > Hudson, my son had dumped the R-12 by mistake as he was pulling his engine > > for a rebuild, and the Packard has apparently a very slow leak (like 3 or > 4 > > years to go down) which I have been unable to find. The 134 doesn't > seem > > to make it any worse. I drove the Packard today, and ran the AC, as it > was > > a very warm day, and it's still cooling fine. > > > > Dick Benjamin > > > >