Torqueflite drives only in R ! (3)

["jsadowski" <jsadowski@xxxxxxx>]

The neutral safety switch on the transmission case relies on electrical current to function. If the trans was anywhere else but in neutral, pressing the start button would do nothing.

John

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From: George Laurie

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Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 1:10 AM

Subject: Re: IML: Torqueflite drives only in R ! (3)

I must disagree on this one Hugh, every 58-70 Mopar I have ever owned has a
Neutral Start switch in the side of the Transmission, this only allows the
start soliniod to earth when the switch is in the neutral position. I will
admit that I have never owned a Chrysler that was started buy pushing the
Neutral button it self, but I really don't think they would rely on that
only for safetys sake, regards George.
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From: "Hugh & Therese" <hugtrees@xxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: IML: Torqueflite drives only in R ! (3)


> Philippe,
>
> I am delighted you have found the source of your transmission problems.
The
> cable attachment is very delicate and the smallest movement can make a
huge
> difference.  As you know, I suspected it was the cable attachment.
>
> However,  I am still more than a little confused by your statements that
the
> 57/58s have a neutral safety switch.  I'm afraid your previous email on
the
> topic went completely over my head.  You say the cars have two such
> switches.  I still think, if you will pardon my ignorance, that they do
not
> have any.  Mine certainly does not.  Just today, I started mine in drive,
> with my foot on the brake.  Because the car, mine at least, has no such
> safety switch, it is always prudent to start it with one's foot on the
> brake.  The car has been known to be in gear even with the neutral switch
> pressed in, due to poor positioning of the gear selector cable.
>
> With no 'P' (parking) position, the lack of a neutral safety switch is all
> the more dangerous.
>
> I understand the element of preventing the starter motor from being
engaged
> if the engine is already running.  I would not call this a neutral safety
> switch in the sense which most people understand the term.  It is simply a
> mechanism to avoid the starter being energized again once the engine is
> already running.  The other switch you described, if I understand
correctly,
> is simply the device that activates the starter when the neutral button is
> completely pushed for the purpose of starting the car.  In your case, the
> starter was engaged when you fully pressed in the neutral switch.  Because
> the cable was no longer attached and your engine was locked in reverse,
you
> were able to start the car in reverse.  The starter button, which is the
> neutral button, did its job as designed.  Excuse my lack of perception,
but
> I see nothing in the two systems you describe as neutral safety switches
> that would prevent the car from starting even though the transmission was
> locked in reverse.
>
> This gets me back to my own experiences with poor adjustments on the gear
> selector cable and the need to have your foot on the brake just in case.
My
> car fits in my garage only if the front fender touches the garage wall at
> the front.  Not a good time to have a Hemi sized power surge!
>
> This may come across as counting angels on the head of a pin.  Neither of
> the two devices you mentioned would have prevented the car from starting
in
> reverse in your circumstances and it is very doubtful if either were
> circumvented at all because both are needed to start the car.  The design
is
> simply not very good because it actually allows the engine to be started
in
> circumstances such as yours, and mine.
>
> Hugh
>
>
>
>
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