Re: [FWDLK] Charging a battery
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Re: [FWDLK] Charging a battery



This is an attempt to work out Battery 101 and the differences in positive and negative ground systems.  Let's define terms first.  The major problem in defining terms is each term may have multiple meanings.
 
Ground - This term refers to the electrical potential of the earth, dirt, or ground.  Ground also refers to the reference point that current flows to.
Circuit - A simple circuit is the path from the source of electrical current, through a load, and returning to the current source i.e. a battery is connected to a light bulb where the current flows out of the battery, through the light bulb and returns to the battery.
Current - Current is the flow of electrical energy.  There are two ways of describing current.  One is electron flow and the other is hole flow.  Electrical current does not cause molecules to move.  The copper molecules do not move in the wire.  The current moves through the molecules.
 
Electron flow is the theory where a molecule becomes excited by an increase in energy which causes an electron (-) to break free.  This electron collides with a neighboring molecule imparting it's excess energy to the new molecule which causes another electron to become excited and leave.  This process is propagated over and over resulting in current flowing from one electron to another.  The current flows from negative towards positive.
 
Conventional current flow or hole flow is a theory where when a molecule gives up an electron, it becomes positive which attracts negative charges.  This attraction of negative charges pulls an electron from a neighboring molecule leaving that neighbor positive and itself becoming neutral again.  This positive charge or hole then propagates from positive towards negative.
 
Confusing???  You bet.  The essence is to determine which direction the energy, or power, flows.  The Einstein's are not sure, so everyone uses both theories and flip-flops whenever each theory fits best.
 
These theories apply to automobile wiring thusly:  If current flows towards the positive charge, then, the positive terminal of the battery is the ground reference, hence positive ground.  If current flows towards the negative charge, then, the negative terminal is the ground reference, hence negative ground.  An electrical circuit (lights, horns, flashers, etc) does not care which direction the current flows as long as there is a wire from the current source, traveling through the load, and returning to the battery.
 
Polarity is critical to some devices on an automobile such as the following cases:
 
1.  Starting Motor - if the polarity of the motor is switched, the starting motor will turn in the wrong direction.
2.  The generator (alternator) must drive current in the reverse direction through the battery in order to dissolve the acid salts from the battery plates.  These salts act as an insulator restricting current flow or "dead battery".
3.  Ammeter (Amp Gage) - this is a galvanometer which shows the direction and magnitude of current through the battery.  If it swings to the left then current is coming out of the battery and if this continues long enough the battery will become dead.  If this gage swings to the right, then current is flowing into the battery, charging it.  If this gage is centered then current is neither flowing into or out of the battery, meaning the battery is fully charged.
 
As has been stated many times already, regardless of the ground reference in a car, charge the battery by placing the red (+) lead on the "+" terminal and the black (-) lead on the "-" battery terminal in order to drive the proper reverse current through the battery to remove the acid salt deposits (current resistors) from the battery plates thereby restoring the battery to full current potential (fully charged). 
 
This is a long reply.  Congratulations if you made it this far.


From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Taylor
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 3:42 AM
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [FWDLK] Charging a battery

I used to think I understood batteries and charging systems but never gave much thought to a positive ground system and I am having trouble getting my small brain around it.  Normally you think in terms of hitting the positive with a wrench and drawing a spark or welding the wrench to the fender.  Here I am actually bolting the positive side down to the block.  I used to think that in charging a battery you were changing some stuff around on the plates that flowed positive to negative.  But, when I have a positive ground batter, appears the generator is creating deposits in the opposite direction since the generator connection is coming from the ground side.  Then, I have to square that with putting it on a battery charger with the positive to positive and negative to negative which would seem to be the opposite of how the battery lives in the car.

Can someone square me away on this?

 

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

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