Hi Tom, and all... That is one-mail that I would rather have not seen dug up, as it really muddies the waters. The correct dish-type core plug size for the 413 blocks up to and including 1961 is 1 5/8". That is what the parts books call for. 1 41/64" plugs are not ever mentioned in any parts books. I don't even think that size plug was ever made, either by Mopar, or Dorman, or other suppliers. My recollection of subsequent conversations with George Riehl on this matter is that we finally came to the conclusion stated above - and I felt it necessary to post this reply publicly before everyone gets confused, and runs out trying to buy 1 41/64" core plugs ! John Hertog Sag Harbor NY With proper cooling system maintenance I have had no problem with steel core plugs. I have had problems in troublesome installation areas with the copper or brass plugs. The softer plugs are not very forgiving if not installed exactly straight. Once in, they work just fine, however. Dorman makes a Neoprene plug (Quick-Seal expansion plugs) that I have used (with great reluctance) and will seal in an emergency. The neoprene will deteriorate with engine oil for example so I do not consider them a permanent fix. The Dorman Quick-Seal Copper Expansion Plug product I do feel is a permanent installation. The 1 5/8" size expand up to 1.655" dia. according to the catalog and 1 41/64" dia. mentioned is 1.641" dia. so the 1 5/8" plug should by book numbers anyway suffice for that size. In my opinion, the copper plugs look better (not like the original plugs of course) than the neoprene plugs and are rated at 3000 psi where the neoprene plugs are rated in the Dorman catalog at 50 psi. NAPA has them also. The copper plugs are listed 8 sizes 1 1/4" dia to 2 1/4" dia. only. Permatex # 1A sealer will make sure the things do not leak. HTH Warren Anderson Sedona,AZ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Autos. Everything you need to know about buying or selling a car. FREE Quotes, 360° Tours, Research, Blue Book, Compare Vehicles, Buy Used http://us.click.yahoo.com/kEZsdA/bwnGAA/YiGOAA/8LmulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/