Re: [Chrysler300] Mopar vs Bowtie.....Group Effort

["Karl Peterson" <longrammopar@xxxx>]

Racing with the air cleaners off is NOT good advise. The risk of sucking 
some foreign object in those carbs is not worth the risk for one run (just 
for fun). If you insist on running no air cleaners, only remove the paper 
element from the housing and leave the housing in place.

Do NOT set the timing at 2 to 4 degrees as one poster advised. This is 
actually less than the recommended timing for an ordinary New Yorker (5 deg 
btdc). The factory timing for your "F" is 10 deg btdc, and I have found 
that on my "G", 12 deg is optimum, ONLY if you mix in some 104 or better 
octane fuel with a 1/4 tank of hi-test pump gas. Do not use this 
"octane-in-a-can" junk you hear about.

If you allow the tranny to shift by itself, the factory shift points are 
well below the max horsepower output of the 413. Shift it manually at 4800 
and you will do much better and not run any risk of "overrevving" that 
motor, as it will do 5200 with no sweat.

As far as revving the motor before leaving the line, remember that ram 413 
is developing 480 ft lbs of torque at 2100 RPM and that is more than enough 
to literally fry any tire short of a drag slick down to the rim before 
you've travelled 20 feet, especially if you do not have a sure-grip rear 
end. Take off full throttle from an idle and let the torque build 
"naturally" to the max after you've actually got the beast moving.

As I said previously, if everything goes right, there's no reason you can't 
expect your "F" to run low to mid 15's in the high 80's to maybe even low 
90's, if the temp and humidity is optimum.

Karl


> From: "Karl Peterson" <longrammopar@xxxx>
> To: Redwoodlse@xxxx, chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Mopar vs Bowtie.....Group Effort
> Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 21:30:36 -0500
>
> Leave the air cleaners on. Set the timing at 12Deg BTDC. Use a 50/50 mix
> of Cam II racing fuel and 91 oct pump gas. Have the widest set of tires on
> the rear that you can find that will fit. Take everything out of the car
> that isn't bolted down, (spare, jack, etc). Do not rev motor at starting
> line; punch it from idle. Do not drive through the "water" ahead of the
> starting line; go around it. Shift with the buttons at 4800 RPM. Give it
> the gas as soon as you see the last yellow lite on the tree before the
> green, (it will take a full second for that big 413 to respond anyway). If
> you are really serious about it, raise the front torsion bar setting 2" and
> run 20 lbs air in rear tires and spray the treads with belt dressing to
> increase the grip off the line.
>
> Your "F" should be able to do low to mid 15's at around 87 to 92 MPH in the
> quarter. With that Camaros handicap (unless it's one of those 300+ hp
> tuned-port injection systems), you should be able to take him. I hope he
> enjoys his dinner.
>
> Let us know how it all turns out.
>
> Karl
>
>
> >From: Redwoodlse@xxxx
> >To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [Chrysler300] Mopar vs Bowtie.....Group Effort
> >Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 18:17:38 EDT
> >
> >Here's the bet between Father and Son. On the 12th, at Sears Point Drag
> >Strip, my son has bet me that his 2001 Camero with a 2.345 second 
> handicap,
> >can still beat Our (I say "Our" because all of our reputations are at
> >stake
> >here) 300F in the quarter mile. It's computer engineering verses 
> old-style
> >torque and carbs. If any of you (Verity, Riehl, Hertog?) have any
> >suggestions, don't keep them to yourselves. Should the pup whip the Old
> >Man,
> >he and the bride take the C rag to the wine tasting country, I win, they
> >go
> >to church with me on Fathers Day and cook breakfast. Seems to me that 
> the
> >Camero might do a 13.90 plus 2.34 equals
> >16.24 to beat. Air cleaners on? off? RPM launch? Just roll out and 
> then
> >punch it? Shift with buttons? Timed for max with too much pinging? 
> Amount
> >of air in rear tires? Open to any and all suggestions as a lot of people
> >will be watching.
> >
> >Larry W Jett
> >950 Woodside Road Suite 4
> >Redwood City CA 94061
> >650 368 3966
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
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