Re: [Chrysler300] Still Starts Then Dies - '65 300 Friday update

["Don Warnaar" <300country@xxxxxxx>]

Ryan,

It's doubtful this is the problem because you said you replaced the condenser, but I remember helping someone with a similar stalling problem on a '66 Buick.  This was probably in the early to mid '70s.  The car would start and then immediately stall.

I just happened to touch the condenser wire inside the distributor and the end of the wire just came right out of the body of the condenser.  It was able to make contact when there was no vibration, but when the engine was started it obviously broke contact.  Replaced the condenser and the car ran just fine.

Probably not your problem, but thought it was interesting to share.

Don Warnaar
New Jersey
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ryan Hill<mailto:ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
  To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:29 PM
  Subject: [Chrysler300] Still Starts Then Dies - '65 300 Friday update


  Morning everyone. A quick update for anyone interested.

  I had a few minutes last night to try a few things. I started the car 
  remotely from under the hood and while it was running, fed a trickle of fuel 
  into the carb to see if I could keep it running. (I'm a pro at this now so I 
  know I fed it enough fuel) It didn't seem to help much but did prolong the 
  stalling a little.

  I immediately removed the carb from the engine and noted there was still 
  fuel pressure at the hard line connection into the carb. I assure everyone, 
  there is NOT a fuel supply problem of any kind. I believe I've also 
  adequately ruled out the ignition system as I have good spark, good dwell, 
  good timing, and voltage readings everywhere are normal when the engine 
  dies(sorry...stalls).

  Once the carb was removed I pulled it apart and checked the fuel levels in 
  the bowls. Both were equal and seemed normal. I tried plunging the pump rod 
  and found there to be no squirting.(Yes, there was fuel in the cylinder) I 
  thought I'd corrected this problem earlier but perhaps not!

  I removed the throttle squirter in the primary venturi to expose the small 
  needle that sits inside. It appears the needle is sticking and not allowing 
  fuel to be pumped out the squirter when the plunger is pushed down. I used a 
  small wire to loosen the needle then shoved the plunger down 
  again.........now the squirter works. This could certainly explain the 
  engine not wanting to rev when I open the throttle plates but I don't think 
  it would explain the engine stalling at idle.

  Can anyone shed any light on how this needle operates and what might be 
  causing it to stick? Is there any way to determine which jets should be used 
  in the primary and which in the secondary so I can ensure I got those right? 
  I suspect the metering rods might be closing off the fuel supply completely 
  as the vacuum rises as a few members have suggested.

  Hopefully I'll have happy news to report over the coming weekend.

  Ryan Hill (Vancouver, B.C.)





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