Re: [Chrysler300] Lake Tahoe controversy

["Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Let us compare this to medical advances that are current and are to come.

I would suggest that your brain could be compared to an automobiles VIN.

If you were to replace virtually any of your physical body parts(except of 
course the brain) via either current or future technology, it would still be 
you, as long as your brain(where your soul--for the believers-- and/or 
consiciousness reside) then I argue that you are still you.

The same could be said of the VIN.  As long as it is legitimate and is 
posted to a body/chassis that in all other regards would be indentical to a 
"factory" 300 then it is a 300.  In particular, if the creator of this 
reconstituted 300 did it in absolute secrecy, who would be the wiser and how 
could this feat of alchemy be detected.

Therefore should a charlatan who is able to do this magic anonomousely be 
rewarded for his efforts beyond what a more open and candid restorer did in 
bringing back from the dead a VIN number from an otherwise destroyed and 
lost 300?  In simpler terms, how many of you have 300's parked in your 
garages that may have already enjoyed this resurrection and you or no one 
else is the wiser?

Some of you are probably of an age where you remember the Dusenberg.  Many 
times(most??) the chassis was built by the factory and the buyer then 
recruited a "coach builder" to build a body.  These were and are considered 
"real" Dusenbergs by all who follow this Marquee.  Often a later buyer or 
sometimes even the original owner would have a change of heart about the 
look of a Dusey they may own.  They then would re-body this chassis to 
another body, often by a different coach builder.

I do not know for certain, but do suspect that these are accepted as real 
Duzzzie's and collectors of this Marque accept them as such.

There were very few of our favorite vehicle produced, many were destroyed or 
lost over the years.  To see how many angels can dance on the head of a pin 
in seach of correctness serves none of us well.  This is a hobby for 
many/most/all of us, not a business or investment.  That is why I have a 
Torqueflight in my B and now wishing(after Lake Tahoe) that I had done disc 
brakes last year when I replaced all my wheel cylinders.  Next time I will 
have disc brakes.  Someday a future obsessive owner can install a Powerflite 
and drum brakes.  Meanwhile no one is hurt and one more accurate B will 
remain for posterity.

Roger Schaaf
Somewhat correct 300 B
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <dan300f@xxxxxxx>; <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:18 PM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Lake Tahoe controversy


>I think the definition of 'clone' needs to be examined, too.
>
> The 'cloned' 440 six pack and 426 Hemi 'Cuda and Challenger cars I have 
> seen still retain their original 'N' code 383 VIN numbers.  Those are 
> clones.  They no longer match the configuration that left the factory on 
> the build date.
>
> What we are talking about here is an original car that needs extensive 
> metal replacement due to rust or accident, and will also retain its 
> original VIN, albeit one that matches the actual configuration of the 
> finished product as it left the factory.
>
> There must be some difference between these two scenarios, isn't there?
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of dan300f@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:44 PM
> To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Lake Tahoe controversy
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> Hi all:
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> As most members are, I for one am against cloned 300's being pawned off as
> "real" 300's.  In order for the club to determine what the rules should be 
> for
> cloned cars, perhaps we should first find out what constitutes illegal 
> cloning.
> I suggest as a first step, the club invite the Michigan Attorney General's
> office to give their opinion after an examination of Mr. Burke's car.  If 
> it is
> deemed to be an illegal clone, case closed.  If it is deemed to be a clone
> but not illegal as far as the AG's office is concerned, then the club must 
> make
> some decisions and I feel we have the right people as officers and 
> directors
> to make those decisions.
>
> Dan Reitz
> Northridge, CA
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