lock up torque converter on my 68, was for 57
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

lock up torque converter on my 68, was for 57



The 68 LeBaron I purchased 3 months ago has a lockup converter.  Here is 
the info I have about these.  Torqueflites for 440s with lockup converter 
appeared for the first and last time in 1978 (last because the Chrysler big 
block expired after 78).  So, I presume my converter is from 78.  According 
to Bob, my whole transmission must be a 78 since the lockup converter 
cannot be bolted on earlier transmissions.  Here is how it works.  While 
accelerating smoothly and slowly, and after 3rd gear engaged and at about 
33-35 the converter locks up.  At these low speeds, the converters are 
quite inefficient, and there is a lot of slippage (about 40% if 
accelerating harder than usual, about 20-25% usually, I have the low stall 
speed unit).  So, when the converter locks, it feels as if you shifted to a 
high gear.  From then on, the converter stays locked with 0 slippage.  If 
you accelerating with lower gears (remember, you can hold 1st up to 50 if 
you need maximum acceleration) the converter stays "unlocked" till high 
gear engages. The efficiency benefit is more evident at low cruising speeds 
because at highway speeds (say 75 mph) the engine speed is fairly high 
(~2500 rpm) and the slippage of the standard converter is a lot 
lower.  Unfortunately, if you are climbing a steep hill or accelerating 
harder even at highway speeds, the converter will "unlock".  At 80 for 
example (2600-2700 rpm) if you floor it, you will see the rpm jumping 
another 150-200 rpm (~8% slippage).  I think (but not completely certain 
yet) that even at 90 or 100 constant crushing, the converter is unlocked 
due to the high relatively high load required to sustain the speed.  At 
these speeds though, the hydraulic coupling gets very efficient allowing 
very little slippage (approaching 1% even at WOT at over 4000 rpm or over 
120 mph).

The part that I am not sure and possibly Bob can explain is how does the 
unlocking mechanism triggered when the load is increased?  Is there a 
connection to the kick-down so that the valve operating the lock-up "knows" 
the throttle position?  My other question to Bob or who-ever is the 
following.  If left in drive, this transmission shifts way too 
early.  1st-2nd at 10 mph, 2nd to 3rd at 20.  Even if accelerating hard, it 
still persists at about the same shift points.  So, for now, I shift 
manually from 2nd to 3rd at about 30.  I tried to adjust the cable, and 
reached its limit with no difference.  Should I add an extension so I can 
adjust even more?  I am reluctant to do that because the previous 
adjustment had no effect.
D^2

At 10:33 PM 1/22/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi all
>In an earlyer post I was reading about a torqe convertor that lockes up at
>higher rpm
>is a convertor like this only for later models or can i get one for my 57
>I know stuped question but I don't know much about the convertor and
>transmision thing
>Scared to even look at it Tryed once to do transmision job myself and ended
>up with a box full
>of parts and had to go to a repairshop with it
>thanks
>Remco
>57 4dr ht
>





Home Back to the Home of the Forward Look Network


Copyright © The Forward Look Network. All rights reserved.

Opinions expressed in posts reflect the views of their respective authors.
This site contains affiliate links for which we may be compensated.