kenyon, i will take the good advice of you and roger. i am now looking for a source of quality parts. the parts i got from bernbaum for my 51 windsor were very poor. he sent me a wheel cylinder that had been returned to him by someone else because it leaked where the line went in, and i am having a problem with one that is in the car now. it must have an out of round cylinder because the brake lining hangs up almost all the time. dennis, 53 custom